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On a positive note, I heard the captain of that frieghter has purchased him a new Sea Ray 340.

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Both to make a quick getaway and for something to amuse himself with during his upcoming retirement !!
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I think the problem is not "facilities" but that it is an exposed roadstead-there's no sheltered anchorage. They'd have been much better off at sea, which is generally true.
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I think the problem is not "facilities" but that it is an exposed roadstead-there's no sheltered anchorage. They'd have been much better off at sea, which is generally true.
If they built a big enough seawall, they could have some protected anchorage space. The harbor I am in went and built a hurricane barrier, which can stop a 22' storm surge... and that was almost fifty years ago.... they could certainly do something at least equivalent... it'd be expensive...
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If they built a big enough seawall, they could have some protected anchorage space. The harbor I am in went and built a hurricane barrier, which can stop a 22' storm surge... and that was almost fifty years ago.... they could certainly do something at least equivalent... it'd be expensive...
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My guess is that to create a big enough barrier for that amount of tonnage would be impractical in the area concerned. If not due to the overall conditions but the fact that it would have a sizeable and almost certainly unacceptable impact on the coastal region around Newcastle.

On the other hand we get these storms only occasionally and the only two calamities that I know of were this one and a bulk carrier of a similar type that went aground in similar circumstances 20 odd years ago. If I remember rightly that was also caused by the ship's captain failing to weigh anchor and head offshore when the blow was imminent.

Reality is that the solution is in upgrading the Newcastle Port facilities. If only one new coal loader was built the backlog of ships would either disappear completely or be brought back to an acceptable level. We have the same problem up north in Qld but that area is protected to some extent by the reef.
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Correction

In my original post I mentioned two ships. Should have only been one. The first reports said a ship had gone up on an offshore reef and another onto Stockton beach. In fact it was the same ship. She hit the reef then the storm surge took her over the reef and onto the beach.

Also, if you have a look at Google Earth you will see both a dozen ships anchored off Newcastle (must have been a quiet week !) and also you can still see the wreck of the Sigma off Stockton beach.
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