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Here's a local tragedy from this last weekend. The area described is western Lake Erie.

Coast Guard finds fisherman's body near river 06/13/07

The article doesn't mention it, but I think the owner/captain should face criminal charges. Am I being to harsh?

Those grand fresh-water seas of ours - Erie, and Ontario, and Huron, and Superior, and Michigan, - possess an ocean-like expansiveness...They contain round archipelagoes of romantic isles...they have heard the fleet thunderings of naval victories...they know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew. --from Moby Dick
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Uhh - probably... Chances are he didn't plan on drowning the guy..
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Sounds like he didn't plan on having decent PFD's aboard either. First time I've heard of someone drowning after they slid under the water WHILE WEARING A PFD. Not sure of the criminal charges, but surely needs his ass kicked. (suspect his sister might help with that)

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Uhh - probably... Chances are he didn't plan on drowning the guy..
The buck stops with the boat's captain (which is usually, but not always, its owner), no? Okay, so going out, and staying out, in that weather reflected poor judgement on both of their parts. But this: "The Coast Guard found Boik floating in the water at 7 p.m. Friday, wearing a disintegrating life jacket." and "The foam started coming out of his life jacket ..." is completely on the owner/captain's head, it seems to me. When the USCG says they require certain PFDs and throwables, I suspect they mean PFDs and throwables that actually work.
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I should also mention that the weather front was predicted. If he had glanced at The Weather Channel the night before, he would have seen something like a 60% chance of severe thunder storms. The sun was shining most of the day and the storm might have been a surprise to someone who didn't check a weather report. Bad judgement, though probably not criminal.

The bad condition of the PFDs is what makes me think the negligence was criminal.

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The bad condition of the PFDs is what makes me think the negligence was criminal.
Or intentional???

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I should also mention that the weather front was predicted. If he had glanced at The Weather Channel the night before, he would have seen something like a 60% chance of severe thunder storms. The sun was shining most of the day and the storm might have been a surprise to someone who didn't check a weather report. Bad judgement, though probably not criminal.
I'm inclined to amend my previous comment, then. If a 60% chance of severe storms was predicted and he either didn't know it (no excuse for that these days) or disregarded it, he was negligent, at least.

I could understand the small boater on a (relatively) small lake getting caught out, but nobody should be embarking on any of the Great Lakes, their connecting rivers or straights, or Lake St. Clair w/o knowing what's (possibly) up with the weather. As somebody said, elsewhere: These lakes are more like small oceans than they are lakes, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Just ask the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald .
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Or intentional???
I was wondering if I was the only one to whom that had occurred...
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I've got a couple of brother-in-laws. It occured to me!!!

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Or intentional???
I thought of that too. lol

If I see any updates to this story, I'll post the link.

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