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I have been called an "anal-retentive *****" by one sales wonk. LOL, yea, thats my job.
That's what I want for a surveyor.

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I have also been old by a prospective buyer that a salesperson told them after the survey that he "would" recommend me but, trouble is nobody takes a sales guys recommendation for a surveyor.
Maybe that's the salesdroid's way of making sure you won't be used by buyers?
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Maybe that's the salesdroid's way of making sure you won't be used by buyers?

no, not that I know of. Most of my bidness come via word of mouth & referrals.

Look, this is an incestous little industry, very few real "players", and quite a few wannabe's and some just looking to spend time on the water by any route.

Use the spagetti analogy, when it hits the wall, the good stuff sticks and the meatballs fall.

I know a broker that I would trust with the cuban out to dinner. He's never recommended me for a survey, but, I've swung a lot of business his way because he knows what he's doing, doesn't screw with clients, and if a fellow comes to him with a boat thats a piece of crap, he'll tell the guy just that, and tell him to take a walk.

Another broker is also a surveyor, and he's found that both ends of his business have fallen off, because he can't be all things to all people. (he also gets really pissed when he gets told by a prospective buyer that he wants a different survey)

I've also had a fleeting thought about becoming a "buyers broker". Hmmm, I'm not so sure I'd be any good at it.
I can see it now, Mr. Gotbucks strolls up and sez...
Hey there, I want a 40ft sailboat, a ketch, maybe a bermuda sloop. I want to take it to trinidad, but it has to have a swim platform and a really big cockpit. It needs to sleep 6, carry a couple of dogs, w wife, and a chick I'm seeing on the sly. What do you think of those Hunters.
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Simon - I don't know the rep of that broker. I would NEVER use the broker's surveyor. I did, and I am paying for it. Find someone like Paul, the guy all the brokers hate. Thats the kind of survey you want. Of all the brokers I met here when looking for my boat, only one took the initiative to keep in touch with me and present boats that he found around the Bay. That was Chuck at McGrath yachts in Sausalito. McGrath Yacht Sales Just remember, it is they make money by selling boats, they are working for themselves, not you or the other broker, no matter what. Brokers like it when you come in without your own broker, that way they get all the money. My advice to you is to not get a broker, work for yourself. I will do what I can to help you if there are boats here you would like to know about.
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I'll relate my experience with my purchase, though I don't know how common it is.

Finding a boat on Yachtworld, I contacted the broker, and talked with one of the brokers there who was NOT the selling broker. I don't know if he made anything off the commision for the sale, but, I was not charged for his assistance, which proved to be of great help. He not only helped me during the bargining process, but also after the sale, and even allowed me to make several major purchases using his Port Supply Card (West Marine at discount).

He wasn't actively looking for a boat for me, but did have some recommendations if the boat didn't pass survey, from their listings. As I said, I don't know how common this might be, but it sure worked well for me.

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My advice to you is to not get a broker, work for yourself. I will do what I can to help you if there are boats here you would like to know about.
Thanks BF that’s what I was hopping for, and now I have got it in writing

I have narrowed it down to an Islander 36, and for some unknown reason most are in the San Francisco area. If some thing nice turns up while I am there , well nothing is in concrete.

As for the broker thing, it is all common sense; I just needed for others to confirm my feelings.
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