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The night sky has stars on both sides of the ship in most places... You really need to read up on the subject a bit more.
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The night sky has stars on both sides of the ship in most places

Really??? Wow thanks for the info...

... You really need to read up on the subject a bit more.

I do huh??? Thanks for the advise anyway. Ever heard of La Palisse (*)?
I suggest you do the same, read I mean, but not on the internet.

(*) La Palisse, in case you can't find him, was know for stating obvious facts....a bit like you, but less active.

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last week on sunday afternoon we were tacking starboard and a friend was tacking port and were going to pass each other across the channel in front and.. big as life a power boater about 20ft loa came right on between us with about 50ft between the bows of our 30ft boats! duh???!!! lol And yes the channel is way wider then the length of to 30ft sail boats.
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The term Starboard pre-dates the Portugese sailing the eastern coast of Africa, and comes from the Vikings originally. The idea that starboard has anything to do with stars in the sky is ludicrious... and only an idiot would think such a thing. Besides, that reasoning fails as the boats headed south would have starboard on one side, and on their return trip, the side that was formerly starboard would now be port...so it is very unlikely, that if this implausible origin of the work was true, that it would have been associated with a specific side to the vessel. DUH... WAFM.

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The origin of the term comes from old boating practices. Before ships had rudders on their centerline, they were steered by use of a specialized oar. This oar was held by a sailor located towards the stern (back) of the ship. However, like most of the rest of society, there were many more right-handed sailors than left-handed sailors. This meant that the right-handed sailors holding the steering oar (which had been broadened to provide better control) used to stand on the right side of the ship.

The word starboard comes from Old English steorbord, literally meaning the side on which the ship is steered. The old English term steorbord descends from the Old Norse words stýri meaning “rudder” and borđ meaning “side of a ship”. The modern term "steering wheel" comes from the same language root as "starboard" or "steer board".

Similarly, the term for the left side of the boat, port, is derived from the practice of sailors mooring on the left side (i.e., the larboard or loading side) as to prevent the steering boards from being crushed. Because the words larboard and starboard sounded too similar to be easily distinguished, larboard was changed to port.
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last week on sunday afternoon we were tacking starboard and a friend was tacking port and were going to pass each other across the channel in front and.. big as life a power boater about 20ft loa came right on between us with about 50ft between the bows of our 30ft boats! duh???!!! lol And yes the channel is way wider then the length of to 30ft sail boats.
Unfortunately, that kind of behavior by powerboats is not all that uncommon.
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DUH... WAFM.
Dear Sir, there is absolutely no need to be rude, that was totally uncalled for. Be nice.


Now, you need to know that not all that is written on the net is true

You obviously copied and pasted your answer from here. Don't do that.


I will not respond to you again, you’re rather rude. Ignore button for you.

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Actually, I had posted my quote from Wikipedia, but only because it basically says what I recall from reading about this two decades ago or so.

Obviously, I realize that not everything written on the net is true... like this piece of idiocy:

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Starbord and port.

I believe those terms date back to the time the Portuguese started sailing south, from Europe, along the coast of Africa.

Port would be the side of the vessel facing land, starbord would be the side where the Stars were.
As for being rude... hmm.. I wasn't the one that said:

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La Palisse, in case you can't find him, was know for stating obvious facts....a bit like you, but less active.
I was merely pointing out the weakness of the idea that stars and the term starboard were related. And exactly how do you become a "Senior Member" with only 5 posts??? Only a true wanker would edit their status to that of senior member with five posts, regardless of how long they've been lurking. Also, nice to see how much you've contributed to this online community. It would be nice if you tried to honestly educate and help fellow sailors, instead of just spouting useless and fictional drivel.
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SD is correct. There's plenty of references to it. Here's one:

Nordic Sagas: Viking Ships
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estrela=star, placa=board so if anyone (alfa) is still under the misapprehension that starboard comes from portugese sailors they ought to start calling it estrellaplaca, which I would bet is not what they call it in Portugese!
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Misconceptions about history certainly do abound and are hard to eradicate. The word "posh" is often thought to have originated in Britain in the days of empire. It was thought that tickets were marked, Port Out-Starboard Home, for the most comfortable cabins avoiding the harsh afternoon sun. It's a great story but for the fact that it ain't true.

While we're venting our spleens here, and for lack of a better place to say it, the phrase "down below" applied to vessels is redundant. The word "below" as in, lay below or went below, is sufficient unto itself , not to mention correct, and the addition of "down" adds no additional information, is redundant, and lubberly. And I'm glad I finally got that one off my chest! Don't make me bring up the topic of sheaves versus pulleys.(g)
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