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I didn't think of the Super Bowl comparison. I read it in an article about kegs being sold for scrap; people leaving a $10 deposit and then finding out it is worth 4 or 5 times that at a scrap yard. It was mentioned in that article; one reason for the industry pushing that story out now was because so many kegs would be disappearing on the 4th. Just as an aside, what they mentioned in that story is that forfeiting the deposit does not make the keg yours; it is still illegal to sell it. Anyway, that is what I read, but I am now venturing into guesswork of my own - Super Bowl parties run about 6 hours, don't have quite the broad spectrum appeal, the party goers aren't out in the hot sun and there is a lot of wine and mixed drinks at Bowl parties that aren't as legally portable as beer. By legally portable, I mean in most states you can't carry open containers like a corked wine bottle or a liquor bottle with the seal broken. Getting a cold one out of the cooler is just more of a Summer thing. But that last bit is guesses.
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I've always felt that watching others dock their boats has a similar entertainment value to sitting in the clubhouse bar watching golfers approach the 18th green. Sometimes you laugh, sometimes you murmur "Well done!"

Sometimes you just cringe.
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Jas...brings up a good point. Working the docks here I have seen it all and sometimes you can see it unfolding in slow motion in your mind before it actually happens. (G)

Since we're on the topic of docking I'll hijack this a bit and make some comments abut coming into a dock in a marina as a TRANSIENT.
1. Ask the dockmaster WELL in advance what the tieup will be and carry lines of sufficient length to tie yourself intro any slip. It is difficult to tie up a 27 foot boat in a 4 point tie in a 40 foot slip with 8 foot docklines!!

2. Rig the lines (and fenders) BEFORE you enter the marina.

3. If the dockhand tells you to do something...don't play "captain". He's docked 1000's of boats in those slips and is aware of tide, current and wind. Chances are you'll be better off if you listen. YES...there are LOADS of know nothings on docks that will do nothing except what you tell them to do (if that)...but when someone TELLS you to do something...chances are they know what they are doing.

4. Don't yell at your wife. Sorry guys but too often I see a lady who clearly does not know what she is doing...trying to lasso a piling or hold a boat from crashing into the dock....and a guy at the wheel who can't control the boat yelling at her. Always says more about the captain than the mate IMHO. Docking is the toughest part of handling any boat...mistakes will be made by all. No need to assign blame in public. You won't be getting any tonite if you do!! (G)
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Well said Cam. One other point, as breast cleat or mid-ship cleat is a damn handy thing to have on any boat.
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4. "Don't yell at your wife. Sorry guys but too often I see a lady who clearly does not know what she is doing...trying to lasso a piling or hold a boat"

I was thrilled to see the above post. I am one of those women who clearly does not now what she is doing when it comes to those lasso's. Most times, I just have to jump off onto the dock and there are cleats waiting for me. We recently visited a marina were there were a few young men waiting for our arrival. They grabbed the lines that I tossed and they did an interesting cowboy-lasso move, that resulted in the lines lassoed around the piling. This technical is unfamiliar to both my husband and myself. The highlight came, when it was time to leave and we had our boat attached to four pilings with no help in sight. We ended up pulling away with our lines still attached to the pilings and the other end in the water.
I would be very grateful if you could share the secrets of this technique, especially the secret to getting the lines off the piling with me not falling in the water.

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JK...The lasso thing takes a lot of practice..not much good at it myself. Dock guys play with ropes all day and I've even seen some "lasso" a cleat and tie a figure 8 knot on it one handed! ....But you CAN learn to throw a line over a piling (not a loop...the line) pretty easily IF you rig LONG lines that are capable of RETURNING to your boat from the piling. Then when you leave...you just loosen one end on your boat and pull in the line.
The trick for throwing the line over he piling is to split the coiled line into TWO sections with one section in each hand. Throw the coil in one hand at a spot OVER and BEYOND th piling and as you toss, open the palm of your other hand so the line can play out easily.
Finally... if you do use a loop...have a nice long boat hook handy and use that to place the loop on the piling. Once you have one piling done...leave the line VERY long on the cleat and use the boat hook to push off the 1st piling and drift the boat over to the other piling where you can put the other loop on. Only once you have both loops on should you adjust the lines on deck. In most slips with rear poles to tie to...you will NEED a line from ONE pole to the mid-ship cleat on your boat to preven the boa from going further forward into the slip and hitting the front of the dock. This will need to be a very long line and it is a pain rigging it one the stern is all tied off...so be prepared with three lines to begin with and rig them all at once!

Hope that helps a bit. The key is having the right tools...long lines and long boat hooks! If HE can afford a chartplotter he can afford to make YOUR job easy and safe!! Never jump off the boat if it is moving...it is the captains job to put her in the slip without risking your safety. Fiberglass repair guys are still slightly cheaper than surgeons!

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waaaaiiiiiittttt a minute...


you mean to tell me your SPOUSE HELPS YOU?????

nawww, can't be, you're kiddin' right?

wait till TheCuban hears about this!
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America's "real" Cup or at least, it appears, the one America will be hoisting today:



and if you have too many of these, you will see double...
Didn't have any of these on the 4th, I was on call.

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My wife won't even take the helm in open water for a minute, never mind handle a line. Something about her nails.

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