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Exclamation 4th of July crash

Let me start out by saying that this was a mildly bad end to what would have otherwise been an absolutely wonderful and problem free vacation. The purpose was originally to leave Muskegon on Lake Michigan, travel North to visit friends in Ludington, a short stopover in Pentwater, and then back to Muskegon to meet friends for Independence Day. With random side trips, all told about 100 nautical miles or so. However, the end of the trip didn't go nearly as smoothly as the first 4 days.

After entering my harbor on Lake Muskegon, since we had been away for a few days i figured it would be prudent to pump out the holding tanks since we had friends coming soon. As I very slowly approached the fuel dock on my starboard side, I shifted into reverse to halt progress as we had come alongside the dock and the lines we're almost being tossed. And thats when something went "BANG!" in the pedestal.
Suddenly the shifting control which had worked so smoothly all week, no longer worked at all. We we're stuck in reverse. Not thinking that it was that big of a problem at that time, I reached for the throttle control and pulled it back to kill the engine, and yet another "BANG!" echos out from the pedestal, and my throttle control no longer works either.

By this time I should mention that we're spinning circles around the basin in a 37' sailboat, and the basin is only about 70'-80' across in any direction. It was only a matter of time before we hit something, and sure enough we we're headed for the concrete pier.

I tried to give it one last save and spun the wheel hard to port and this is when we realized that the throttle cable had become jammed into the chain drive for the steering system. And as I spun the wheel, the throttle rev'd up to the maximum. Fortunately this was enough to spin the stern free from directly ramming the concrete pier, but not enough to miss the rock break wall right next to it. (This is the moment where your entire boating life flashes before your eyes, where you know your baby is about to crash, and there's nothing you can do about it)

Those three words will probably forever haunt me from that moment, "EVERYONE BRACE YOURSELF!" We rammed the break wall doing roughly 5 knots in reverse. It was the most devastating feeling to hear the "CRACK!!!" of the fiberglass on the rudder as it snapped and twisted around. I should mention that no one seems to remember at exactly what point the engine shut off. Which leads me to believe that there's going to be quite a bit more wrong than just the rudder. We we're stopped stern first up on the rocks. This is when i first climbed onto the ladder and looked into the water and the carnage that lay just below.

At any rate, nobody got hurt, which is the most important thing that could have came out of this situation. And fortunately I was in my home port and the Harbor master was right there, and ran quick to get the marina's tender. In a matter of minutes, with help from several bystanders, we had her secure to the dock. While we were doing that, several crew were searching through aft compartments and the bilge to make sure that we weren't taking on water. Which, fortunately, we weren't.

Amazingly, I had purchased a brand new insurance policy only days earlier and hadn't even paid my premium yet, though I was assured by my insurance agent that i was not only covered for the entire extent of the damage, but that they would cover the tow crew and handle the whole repair. (If anyone is ever interested in a top notch insurance agent/agency i would be more than happy to recommend my agent to anyone. Just write me an e-mail and i'll send you his information.)

Of course, what would an accident be without retrospect.

Killing the engine via throttle control, this is a procedure that is listed in the Yanmar service manual, and was told to me by the previous owner. Hindsight being 20/20, there obviously needs to be another way to kill the engine in an emergency, which will be addressed before it goes back in the water

Words cannot describe how wonderful it is that among all of the chaos nobody got hurt. Nobody jumped to put themselves in between a pier and a boat that they couldn't stop. And when the order to brace yourself came out, everyone did just exactly that. It scares me to think what would have happened in the same situation if I had been out singlehanding the boat in the middle of the week when there was nobody around.

I cannot exactly imagine how the pedestal fell apart. I re-built and upgraded it last spring with new clamps, hardware, shackles, and retainers. Unfortunately until they have had a chance to inspect it, I'm not going to pull anything apart to see what happened. I feel this is best left to the professionals, especially since the insurance agency is paying for it.

Most certainly, more than anything I should emphasize safety in this situation. Numerous times passengers and crew could have easily been severely injured or even killed by impact injury, crushing, falling, overstressed lines, a spinning prop or in so many other ways. Cooler heads prevailed, and because of continually hammering the importance of safety through drills, books, discussions and practice (though redundant, annoying, and boring at times for the crew) it pays off in these types of situations. I can't say that I did everything right, at the minimum I should have had the foresight to anticipate an engine problem and install an emergency kill switch long before any of this ever happened.

Hopefully you can learn from my unfortunate incident somehow, or at least use it as a good example of why you should never try to stop a boat with your body.
I'll post photos when they pull it out early next week.
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You were indeed very lucky. It will be interesting to hear the diagnosis of what went wrong inside the pedestal. Glad you're OK!
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Wooow.
Thanks god it ended without someone being hurt and the boat is still floating.
All the boats I was ever on had either the stop button or the key you can turn back to kill the engine (like in the car).
I did not even know there are boats without a stop button.


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Wooow.
Thanks god it ended without someone being hurt and the boat is still floating.
All the boats I was ever on had either the stop button or the key you can turn back to kill the engine (like in the car).
I did not even know there are boats without a stop button.
I'm kinda scratching my head about that one, too - no key?

Glad everyone is OK.
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What kind of boat was this and who makes your throttle controls? It seems grossly shortsighted - even negligent - that they would provide a setup without an emergency cut-off.
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Wow! you ended 4th July with a BANG ! Good you have a mind to warn everyone onboard before the crash. Many people would have been freeze-frame by the sudden & surprise happening and not knowing what to do.
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Wow, TBP, that's some story! Glad everybody came out okay. Sorry to hear about your boat, but glad she's still afloat and insurance will cover her repairs. With a bit of luck, hopefully you'll soon have her out again .

The "bang"s you heard: Do you man as in something exploding "bang," or something hitting something "bang?" Very curious.

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I too own a Hunter cutter with the engine kill switch on the throttle and it drives me crazy, nothing is worse than approaching your slip or dock and you pull the throttle to idle and you went to far and the engine stops. When I got around to it, I was going to change it to a kill switch. But after your experience I think I better do it now and not later.

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The sailboat in question is a 1980 37' Hunter Cutter. Unfortunately the way that the engine is designed, it comes with a mechanically triggered compression release, which triggers at the end of the throttle swing. I haven't gotten too far into the way that its set up, as I've been working on getting the wheels in motion to get the major repairs started first.
And as far as the engine not having an actual stop device, this isn't that completely abnormal on older diesel engines. I remember my father having a Kubota tractor some number of years ago, and in order to shut that diesel off you had to physically pull a lever that shut off the fuel flow until the engine sputtered and died. So i never thought twice about having the same setup on my boat.

In reply to the question about the bang noise, imagine if you will, a steel connection of some sort, say a dirtbike chain we're to snap at the coupler, and then, under load, the pieces of the linkage slamming into another metal object. I imagine the connector on the end of the shift linkage failed (new cables last year though...?) and because of some sort of mechanical bind forced the connector off the lever and jammed the keeper pin into the chain drive on the steering wheel. I mean i know that's a pretty fantastic theory, but at least to me, this whole chain of events seems like it was one of those "one of a kind" events where everything fails at once. And Edison is the pedestal manufacturer.
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I'm kinda scratching my head about that one, too - no key?

Glad everyone is OK.
My boat does not have a key either. It merely has a handle near the throttle that you pull out to cut the engine. But sometimes my wife has trouble pulling it out and I worry that she might have some trouble with it in a pinch.

Anyway, good news that everyone is well, the boat didn't sink and that there is insurance.
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