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The problem with concrete blocks is that they are far less dense than an steel mushroom anchor or cast iron engine block—so the effective weight they represent is far less, given the same mass. Also, a mushroom anchor, will tend to be fairly effective, more so than its actual mass would indicated, as it becomes buried in the bottom over time. Concrete blocks may not bury themselves as effectively, nor may an engine block, which presents a much larger surface area to the bottom than the much more compact mushroom anchor does.
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And most engine blocks are no longer cast iron.
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Would a 60 pound danforth be too big to moore the 29' Islander?
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I wouldn't use a Danforth Anchor, since they have a really bad record if the tide or wind changes direction.
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even while using them in the bahamian style mooring?
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In a bahamian moor, the other anchor helps prevent the Danforth from pulling out. However, you didn't mention using it in a Bahamian moor or even a dual anchor setup.
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I really want to make sure that what ever I do, it will first be safe as well as being as environmentally friendly as possible.
Assuming you actually mean what you say, why not contact your local Coast Guard and see how they feel about you dumping used car parts in a public waterway for your own personal (and probably illegal) "permanent mooring"?
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Dumping an engine block is illegal. Local authorities just arrested someone for doing exactly that, he planned on using the two he dumped as a mooring, he could have used it for his bail.
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A 2 anchor setup in a tidal area for a mooring will insure you spend half a day unwinding the 2 rodes when you visit your boat!
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As was mentioned, a mushroom sinks into the bottom and acts almost like a Danforth or Fortress anchor. With an engine block you are basically relying on the dead weight. And you really need to pull a mooring every few years to examine it carefully. A new mushroom costs about $1 per pound. So a 300 pound mushroom which should be adequate for a 29 foot boat is about $300. You could probably find a good used one for half that. Not much in the scheme of things considering it will last for 10-20 years. The biggest expense of a mooring is the upper chain and pennants which need to replaced regularly.
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