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post #11 of 23 Old 07-11-2007
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According to the two different skippers with which my wife and I have sailed this season: Whenever two sailboats are on the same tack and w/in sight of one another, they're racing

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Hahahaha. EXACTLY!!! Well put.
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You mention that the collision occured at a mark. Perhaps the Catalina thought he could call buoy room on the O'Day even though it doesn't appear as if normal race rules applied (i.e. it looks like the only Right of Way rule was Starboard Tack)

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You mention that the collision occured at a mark. Perhaps the Catalina thought he could call buoy room on the O'Day even though it doesn't appear as if normal race rules applied (i.e. it looks like the only Right of Way rule was Starboard Tack)

I'm not sure how the Catalina got where it was, but the Oday, (starboard tack boat), was coming in full speed to the wind, to take the marker on it's port, jibe around and set the spinnaker, when the Catalina came through the downwind traffic, on a port tack, with no real chance of taking the buoy; I assume they had missed the mark the first time around and where circling back to try again. Either way, they should have seen the Oday coming, as it had been on the same tack for quite a while, right in front of me.

It was a pretty loud crunch and the Catalina looked pretty bad afterwards; the jib was shredded and flapping, the lifelines hung loose and about a foot of the rail was splintered. The hull looked okay, but they were done for the night. I did find it odd that the Oday didn't pull out of the race to speak with the damaged boat, just out of courtesy, but the Oday kept going and finished the race. This is definitely a beer can race, and it's very rare to hear anyone protest, (expect maybe about running out of ice or something).
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That does nto sound like a normal DD to me. That race is normally like the thursday night on Elliot bay, the only rules there are finish with in the 1.5 hrs, be you sail or motor!!! and avoid the other boats!

Off to edmonds for a race there tonight! SHould be fun, a bit o wind, and 90+ temps!

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Hahahahahahha

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When it isn't your boat and you really don't like the owners and sailors of the two boats involved...
Yea... for sure...

Or when a sailboat is running over a power-dork (aka power boater).

Seriously though, I thought the rules of the road stated that the stand on vessel must take evasive action if the give way vessel can not or does not give way.

Of course, try telling that to a commercial ship. haha.

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this is why I like crewing. You get to race, see crashes, win or lose, drink, and then not pay for stuff that breaks.
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So where you been tenuki?

I saw headlines in the times today with a BIG color pic showing and talking about the tuesday even party and duck dodge! Have not had a chance to read it yet.

Also rumour has it, there is a ranger 23 or some such thing that is free for the taking on wed night local races in the sound...........Greenish in color, supposidly mastless tho?!?!?! or at least WAS mastless! any body know anything about this boat?

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The stand on vessel must take action when the actions of the give way vessel alone will be insufficient to avoid collision.

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And that is why we will remain cruisers forever-Too much competitiveness takes the fun out of everything. Saw two Pearson 26s collide at Chelsea Yacht Club, lo, many moons ago, turned one into a Pearson 23. I was crewing aboard an Ensign at the time. Yes, two boats on the same tack are racing, can't help it, but it is a nice way to try to hone one's skills and see how others do it.
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Not wishing to reignite the old and tired argument between racers and cruisers, I must add my displeasure at the "racing fraternity" who want to claim right of way, regardless of rules, or common sense.

I really do try to be considerate of racing boats, but unfortunately, the reverse is rarely the case. The number of times a dinghy, let alone a serious keelboat has come screaming across our bows is too frequent to count. Regardless of what tack they are on and whether they have the right of way, do they really believe my boat that does maybe 7knots is capable of getting out of the line they have chosen? Here in Sydney, there have been a number of spectacular crashes recently - some caused by nothing more than rank stupidity by the "dedicated sailors" who in my view, are unworthy of such a definition.

Roll on exclusion zones where these idiots are restricted. I for one will be glad to keep clear of them
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