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Single handling on Lake Michigan to UP

Does anyone have advice for a single handler from Holland, MI, to DeTour, MI? I am planning on 45 - 50 miles a day. Is the 75 miles from Frankfort to Charlevoix too ambitious? The only single handling experience I have is taking my Beneteau 331 from Hammond, IN, to Holland last fall when the Horseshoe Casino kicked us out the marina we used for 14 years. The other concern I have is what to do if a thunderstorm comes up. At one seminar the advice was to ride it out. Thanks for any help.
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The answer to the 75 mile question is "it depends". If you are beating into the wind the entire way, making no more than 5 knots and having to tack back and forth, you're looking at a 20 hour sail. If, on the other hand, you get lucky like I did when I went from Port Washington, WI to Pentwater, MI (about 75 miles) where I had south winds 15-25 and I was able to simply hold a 75 degree heading the entire way and never saw less than 7 knots, you'll make it in 11 hours. The latter is definitely doable. I wouldn't want to do the former by myself.

As far a thunderstorms go, I'm not sure what the option is besides riding it out. If you are really close to a safe harbor and it is looking really bad, I'll probably do that. However, in most cases you'll likely be a few hours from a harbor and the thunderstorm will likely fly through by then.

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Autopilot a must - you didn't say. Otherwise I would have no problem. Are you anchoring at Round Lake or going into Lake Charlevoix? I wouldn't want to try and anchor in Round Lake after a long sail in the dark. Too deep (90+ feet) and too many boats anchored in too small an area.

Be sure and have someone on shore that you can call and give updates on your position at regular intervals.

I would make sure I had a good harness/life jacket like SOSpenders and tether myself to a jack line. You can never be knocked or fall off the boat.
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Does anyone have advice for a single handler from Holland, MI, to DeTour, MI? I am planning on 45 - 50 miles a day. Is the 75 miles from Frankfort to Charlevoix too ambitious? The only single handling experience I have is taking my Beneteau 331 from Hammond, IN, to Holland last fall when the Horseshoe Casino kicked us out the marina we used for 14 years. The other concern I have is what to do if a thunderstorm comes up. At one seminar the advice was to ride it out. Thanks for any help.
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We are at Eldeans; Z-Dock.

When we cruise, I like to have company.
I do all of the sailing and handling of the boat, but my wife is along to take a watch when necessary. We routinely sail back and forth to Chicago like this. If your comfortable docking your boat after a ten to twelve hour day on the water by yourself, than go for it. I like have someone else on board when it comes to docking, especially in strange harbors.

I have not been up that way in a while, but the South Manitou Island Anchorage might break that leg up into a couple of shorter legs. (I would have to check the charts again)

I here there are a lot of boater's in your position. I think the Casino in Hammond kinda did you guys in. Monroe Harbor in Chicago is full of displaced former Hammond guys.

Are you planning on doing the North Channel?

Good luck with the cruise.
It would be nice to meet up sometime.
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I'm not familiar with the waters or weather on Lake Huron, (except what I've read and heard about in songs) but I've done some long distant, single handled sailing (from Sitka to Glacier Bay, and San Fransisco to Hawaii)). My two-cents: don't try for the 75 mile leg, if you're asking, it's too far. Always be tethered and think about getting an EPIRB. But most importantly, bring lots of snack food, lol, 'cause thats the only thing you'll have time to eat.
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I'm not familiar with the waters or weather on Lake Huron, (except what I've read and heard about in songs) but I've done some long distant, single handled sailing (from Sitka to Glacier Bay, and San Fransisco to Hawaii)). My two-cents: don't try for the 75 mile leg, if you're asking, it's too far. Always be tethered and think about getting an EPIRB. But most importantly, bring lots of snack food, lol, 'cause thats the only thing you'll have time to eat.
BTW- He on Lake Michigan, not Huron. Isn't SF to Hawaii more than 75mi. ? If he shouldn't try a 75 mi. leg, how'd you get to Hawaii?

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BTW- He on Lake Michigan, not Huron. Isn't SF to Hawaii more than 75mi. ? If he shouldn't try a 75 mi. leg, how'd you get to Hawaii?
Huron, Michigan, whatever, I've never been there. And a 75 mile leg is easy for me, but the OP sounds a little unsure of his skills and it's been my experience that sailing beyond your skill level is dangerous.
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"Huron, Michigan, whatever..."
Hopefully your sailing skills are better than your navigational skills.

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Ummm... sailing beyond your skill level, within reason, is generally the way you expand your sailing skills.
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Huron, Michigan, whatever, I've never been there. And a 75 mile leg is easy for me, but the OP sounds a little unsure of his skills and it's been my experience that sailing beyond your skill level is dangerous.

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Ummm... sailing beyond your skill level, within reason, is generally the way you expand your sailing skills.
I suppose so. Although arriving at an unknown port, at night, singlehanded, after sailing for 12 hours, might be a pretty interesting skills test

edit: On second thought, it's really not that big a deal, what's the worst the could happen?

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