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I'm going to upgrade the nav aid and I'm thinking of using Garmin, will start with the 3210 as the base and expand as I can. ( Radar,WX and such )

One problem I may have though is Radar, I have a wood mast and I'm very leary of mounting any kind of hdwr to it ( it's such a pretty spar )

Where can I go to veiw other mounting opitions and what would you guys & gals suggest as far as equip ( if not Garmin )


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You can always shell out the money for a backstay radome mount or add a radar mast to the boat.
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The consensus on the best backstay mounts appears to be with Waltz's products. Expensive, but the scuttlebutt claims they are worth it.

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Now that's slick, Thanks for the link Valiente
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Notice also their mast mounting system. Picture apparently shows it with the sail guard. Does not look as if it would be too traumatic to your mast. I'd be trying to get the radome as high as possible.
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PoopDeck, Garmin is good IMHO, Furuno is excellent. I've had Furuno in boats for years and have never had a problem (well, a radar set wore out after almost 3000 hrs on it). Probably more expensive than Garmin, I'd go play with both and see which you like the most.
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Notice also their mast mounting system. Picture apparently shows it with the sail guard. Does not look as if it would be too traumatic to your mast. I'd be trying to get the radome as high as possible.



Yeah, I saw that, I just can't bring myself to mount something that could eventually deteriorate the surrounding area.

There was a random thermal image scan on the spars and after 30 yrs there was no sign of rot and I would sure like to keep this rig another 30
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Notice also their mast mounting system. Picture apparently shows it with the sail guard. Does not look as if it would be too traumatic to your mast. I'd be trying to get the radome as high as possible.
Actually, you really don't want it as high as possible. There was one study that showed the most effective height for a small boat radar is about 16-20' above the waterline. If you go much higher than that, you increase range, but may create a blind zone up close to the boat. This is especially true on monohulls which may be heeled a fair amount unless a self-leveling mount is used.
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I would discount that study, Dog. The only negative about a higher mounting is the effect of vessel motion. In the case of the mounts concerned, they are gimballed.

If you are relying on radar at the short distances a blind spot might cover you are operating in a scary manner. The whole point of the unit in the first place is to be able to reach out, over the horizon, and detect objects before they are upon you. If you depending on radar for close in detection it is similar to the driver who is only looking down his hood to the road in front of him. By the time he see's it, he's hit it.
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