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If that was the one over at Potters I saw it and wondered what the story was...

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Your boat is a beauty. I met a couple on Beaver Island in Lake Michigan last week with what I think was a 43. They were on their way to the North Channel of Lake Huron for a month of cruising and were very excited about the trip. They, and you, certainly have the boat to be comfortable on for a month.
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Yes I am running dual pendants but have also filed ,wet sanded and polished my bow chocks on my CS. From the factory the cast stainless steel stem plate had some rough edges that I did not like the look of. In storms I run three wraps/layers of fire hose (hard to find but this stuff is bullet proof) around each pendant. I also run un-equal length pendants so one is always new and ready for the first to part leaving a virtually brand new pendant. In 30 years of having boats on moorings I have yet to have one break free. I have chafed pendants but my chafe gear bought me more than enough time for the storm to pass plus my back up pendants, un-equal length, had no chafe. Dual, equal length pendants will wear virtually equally and will part near or at the same time..... I also prefer Yale mooring pendants and run dual 3/4 inch...

Read the link below it happened in my anchorage without an anchor on the roller. If the anchor had been there Tim certainly would have lost his boat. The pitching and yawing in a severe storm can take a long pendant above the anchor roller to then rip it down wards as the bow comes up again..

http://www.triton381.com/sailing/logs/2005/log52605.htm

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cmhyland,
Yes it was at Potters and I'm curious to know the story. High winds out of the north made staying on our friend's mooring in the outer cove very uncomfortable Friday night. We moved to the inner cove just after midnight and saw the beached mooring on Saturday.

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I agree that separate lines, instead of a split single line, is best. I would imagine it would be more of a hassle for picking up though, so don't know if I'd do it that way . . . especially since this will be solely for weekend use and an occasional overnighter during the week.
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Yes it is. Here's the same mooring while rafting up with friends - showing the double line in use:
Nice. I think I'll have to make one of those for myself!
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Joel, have you found anyone that will sell the Helix anchors--without requiring the entire installation job to be done by the same contractor?
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I agree that separate lines, instead of a split single line, is best. I would imagine it would be more of a hassle for picking up though, so don't know if I'd do it that way . . . especially since this will be solely for weekend use and an occasional overnighter during the week.
I connect the two pennants via a 30 inch piece of line, tieing a rolling hitch on each pennant positioned to be forward of the bow. Use a pickup bouy on one and the other follows along.
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....In storms I run three wraps/layers of fire hose (hard to find but this stuff is bullet proof) around each pendant. I also run un-equal length pendants so one is always new and ready for the first to part leaving a virtually brand new pendant. ..... I also prefer Yale mooring pendants and run dual 3/4 inch...

Read the link below it happened in my anchorage without an anchor on the roller. If the anchor had been there Tim certainly would have lost his boat. The pitching and yawing in a severe storm can take a long pendant above the anchor roller to then rip it down wards as the bow comes up again..

http://www.triton381.com/sailing/logs/2005/log52605.htm
It would great to visit that Triton, I've looked at the website in the past and he's done an amazing job with that boat.

I've been working on getting some old fire hose from the neighborhood fireman, to try out. Can you explain how you secure the layers of material so they can't open or move?

I have also wanted to add a section of polyester line so the Yale pendant line is interesting - I have not seen that stuff in use in our area. I presently have 1' 1/4" three strand nylon primarly sized for chafe survivability, I'll have to look into the cost of switching to the Yale stuff which looks excellent, or at least adding a section to the working end of the current pendants.

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A couple of points:

1) Helix moorings really have to be installed properly, and most people do not have the proper equipment to install them properly. A properly installed Helix mooring can have a pull-out strength of over 12,000 lbs.

2) While Firehose is normally good chafe protection, I would highly recommend Dyneema chafe protection sleeves instead. A major source of dock/mooring lines failing in a storm is internal friction and heat causing the nylon line to harden and fail. The woven dyneema chafe sleeves allow water through to cool and lubricate the nylon line—fire hose, garden hose and plastic/rubber hose generally does not.
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