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Couldn't have been that exciting... the word capsize wasn't mentioned..
It was exciting enough, thankyouverymuch .

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It was exciting enough, thankyouverymuch .

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LOL... Sounds like it was...
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We can so relate to that. After being on the hard for nearly 3 months being repowered we took ours out and in the lack of routine forgot to store things that crash down below while healed over, had lines ran wrong and just didn't do things like we typically do. Sailing husband was stuck in traffic so I did a lot of the prep before he got there and so our usual routines were off and between that and the long absence from sailing........ we are just lucky nothing broke. But, the new engine ran great!
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This is one that must be taken very seriously.
Fingers can get broken or worse yet.. lost.

Also, don't fend off any dock, pier or piling with any body part between said dock, pier or piling. Also a good way to loose a finger or hand or foot. It can be a very painful experience.
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# The lagoon in the middle of the canal we transit has an island in it. Stay at least 20' off that island going out, as the depth rapidly changes from 8' to 3.5'. This is detrimental to the forward motion of a boat that has a 5' draft.
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It looks like there was no harm here (You'll know at pull out), but the real lesson that should have been learned here was to make sure that you have an updated chart of the water that you are navigating and consult it before heading out.

We typically avoid going into areas that are less than twice our draft at MLLW. That way I am always confident that we have enough water even at low-tide. I have to break that rule at our mooring site though as our mooring is in 10 ft/water at MLLW and our draft is 6'. 20 yards away, the depth is 12 feet, so that is always the direction that we tend to head into and from our mooring. Don't forget just because a chart says you have 10 ft of water, doesn't always mean that there aren't small areas that could be less. Why take a chance? I have never grounded.

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When attaching the jib sheets, get 'em outside all the lifelines and stanchions, not just most of 'em.
Maybe your boat is set-up differently, but I don't think a can do this and make my head sail work. The base of my Headsail furler is at least 2 feet below the bow pulpit top rail and in between the posts that mount the pulpit to the deck. The pulley/block adjusting rail is about 6 inches in from the lifelines. If I went around my lifelines, it would tangle at the bow pulpit. I also own a Pearson albeit 10M 79 Vintage.

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Hey, don't feel bad about running aground. It doesn't matter whether you are on Lake St Clair, the Mississippi (where I sail) or the pacific. there are two kinds of sailors -- those that run aground, and those that refuse to admit it. Especially on their first solo sail! Sounds like you enjoyed it, and that is what it is all about! And I am glad to hear that the Admiral docked the boat -- Too many wives won't (or aren't allowed to) take the helm. It is not good practice that your SO learns to dock the boat just after you have had a heart attack, or she is learning to turn the boat 180 degrees just after the Captain fell overboard! Fortunately for me, the last time I fell overboard (which was the first time my beloved was on a sailboat) I fell into a lake about a half mile wide. That many years ago I could easily swim a couple miles! So I soon made sure she could operate the boat under sail or motor as well as I can! I hope you both enjoy that boat enough that some day you will join the cruising community! I have 21 months until we do.
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It looks like there was no harm here (You'll know at pull out),
Unlikely, I think. We were doing all of 3 kts (no wake zone) and she didn't bump or lurch to a stop, she just kind of quickly slowed down to a stop . The boat that pulled us out of it was just a little I/O, that hadn't room for more than six adults, and even then only if they were real friendly. Once I got him to go on the right angle, she just pulled right off. (In fact: She pulled off so quickly and easily I was concerned the little power boat would keep pulling, we'd build up too much momentum, and have real trouble. But he stopped just about right away. Could've been the panicked yelling .)

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but the real lesson that should have been learned here was to make sure that you have an updated chart of the water that you are navigating and consult it before heading out.
We do. Brand new charts and a brand new Garmin 498 GPS/chartplotter. This is a canal. They dredge it. All the cartography says about this canal is "6'," when, in fact, it varies from 5' (yes, our draft) to at least 8' - in the "channel." Obviously they don't dredge it very close to the island. (Which only makes sense, being as dredging too close to the island would probably ultimately result in the island gradually disappearing.) Equally obviously: Those depths are "soft" soundings. (I'll know more once I get my sonar installed--which should probably be at a bit higher priority.) I am wondering why they don't have some markers indicating where the dredged part of the channel ends, tho.

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We typically avoid going into areas that are less than twice our draft at MLLW.
I'd love to have that option. I bet all Great Lakes and Lake St. Clair sailors would love that . But the lake levels are dropping. It's quite a concern. The sail club we're joining did a massive dock re-fitting w/in the last few years, making them easily height-adjustable, so they can lower them as the lake level drops. You can see from the other dock heights and the marks on the seawalls that canal is about 3' or so lower than it once was .

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Maybe your boat is set-up differently, but I don't think a can do this and make my head sail work. The base of my Headsail furler is at least 2 feet below the bow pulpit top rail and in between the posts that mount the pulpit to the deck.
So is mine. (Except I have a Tuff Luff system, rather than a furler.)

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The pulley/block adjusting rail is about 6 inches in from the lifelines.
Mine is actually outside the lifeline stanchions.

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If I went around my lifelines, it would tangle at the bow pulpit. I also own a Pearson albeit 10M 79 Vintage.
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the garmin 498 has sonar, why no sonar ?
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