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Camaraderie,
I just knew someone would call me on that one.

Skip tells other men he has the best wife in the world. She bought him a MISTRESS.
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Girls, I race alot as well, always trying to get the best turn off speed regardless of racing or cruising. Now, ya won't see me turning around the cans when cruising but you can bet I'll be tweaking the sails, adjusting to puffs and heaven help us if another sailboat comes on a parallel course. That's just me. I find it a challenge to get the best from my boat all the time. However, if we're just cruising and Mamma just wants to relax or we have newbies aboard, you won't see me burying the rail. I'll still read puffs and tweak sails but I'll keep the boat at 10* or less to keep it smooth. Most guys figure these things out IF they really wanna make the SO happy. Fair winds.
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Aboard MISTRESS it is usually me who wants to drive her harder. Yesterday, my brother commented that he didn't know his sister was a speed freak. Skip sails the course. I often cause us to make an additional tack home because I was the one who sailed the best wind. Skip will tell you that I keep her on course better, unless I find a better wind. Then it is always me who gets his MISTRESS moving the fastest. Its ok to sail fast and still have a cruising mentality. Too much of anything is no good they say. Balance, exspecially at sea is in order. At least here.
Personally, I like 18 degrees.
I think MISTRESS does too.
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You have really made me smile!!!!
I don't think standing on the bow in a bikini would do a thing except make him laugh!!!!
I was married for 41yrs folks I know all about it; The Good and the Not so Good!!!!
I just want to go Cruising!!!!
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Then find a compromise or find someone else to cruise with. My girl wants to buy a house in the City she is from, extremely expensive and not that important to me. I want to live on a boat, not that important to her and she needs partial grounding. We are not married, but we have a very good understanding of respect for each other. We will work it out. Probably get a smaller boat and a smaller house, or something like that.

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Sue...the solution is to go on a Pacific downhill run cruise to the Marquesas..He'll run around adjusting things at first....then...After 3000 miles of the same wind on the same point of sail he'll figure out that there's nothing much else he can do and give up looking for buoys!
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As a racing sailor who loves to cruise, or is it a cruising sailor who loves to race, I would like to make a couple suggestions that might help if you end up combining your lives for the long haul. (Of course this does not work with the more extreme 'Type A' racers, only those with a bit of Typee in their souls.)

-Get a cruisable boat that is responsive and offers decent preformance.
-Keep a decent sail inventory aboard and let him use it.
-Don't freak out if he spends a large part of his time adjusting and tweaking even when there aren't other boats around.
-Let him calibrate the instruments.
-He will want to make tactical decisions (as in, 'The tide is about to change, lets stay in shallow water until slack tide and then move into deeper water to catch the favorable current'.) Let him but ask him to explain his thinking so you don't feel like he is sailing arbitrary courses.
-Be willing to sail into the outer edges of what cruisers would consider good sailing weather (meaning into lighter and heavier winds) before you crank the engine. If he is a good racer, he will be willing to make sail changes and trim the sails to keep the boat up to speed in the light stuff and balance things out in the heavier going.
-Be willing to sail into challenging locations rather than drop sails and motor in.
-Race occasionally with him so you can see how well he plays with others, but also to keep your trimming skills up so you can become a part of the performance team.
-Even racers come home and crash at the end of the day. If he gets to push the boat hard all day, he will be more ready to crash and unwind watching the sunset at the end of the day.

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Dear all....the truth has to be told....I can do it.

Sailaway was a hard core racer, I mean, the man even raced his own shadow....Alinghi couldn't keep up with him.....then, wanting to go cruise, his wife had to do something about it....the guy even changed Spinnakers while sleeping..... Mrs. SA21, followed Katleen's advice, I mean..someone had to stop that man....

She wore her sexy outfit, and sailaway never raced again.....true is he never came home again...but heck racing he didn't do again...his eyes were gone...

One day, while beating to the downwind bouey , she comes out of the companion way....he stoped racing right there and then...

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I cruised with my husband but he passed away 6yrs ago and have met a very nice person so I guess I will just go with the flow and see what happens.
Ca't get divorced. A Good Thing!!!!
Sue

Of course I was joking but it is going to be hard to get an absolute racer to slow down. Alex (Giulletta) seems to have a pretty good handle on things. He's obviously very competitive and loves his racing but he also seems to just love sailing, ergo cruising for him is no big deal. If only he could get rid of the dodger that is.

I'm quite the reverse. While I enjoy going fast and hate it when an equivalent boat overtakes me or I feel we are not sailing to our best potential organised racing has no appeal and I'd much rather be outside, feet up, auto pilot on , just watching the waves go by than dashing about the race track.

I think Alex slightly misinterpreted SM's meaning but he is right as far as the manner in which Europeans view getting down and dirty. Anglo centric societies do, it seems to me, view sex in a carrot and stick fashion whereas latin societies deem it as a meeting of two like minded individuals. Strangely enough though, Latin societies tend to be very sexist in ways Anglo societies aren't.

(Latin in this context should be taken as western med region including Portugal which I know is not in the Med so don't get your knickers in a twist Blue Bottle.)

All to confusing for a tired old marsupial like me. Now if I could just teach that damn sheep to clean up occasionally.

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Yes my husband and I were the same way. Get it going as good as you can if there is a boat along side of you you want to be ahead and give it your all but organized racing we found was not to our liking too much organization and commitment to time. Our time!! Relax it is a weekend or vacation. Take off your watch, no phone, no apointments. Sail and relax and have fun!!
the men I have met who race if still married have wives who don't like to sail or they are divorced and hang out with the Guys.
oh well to each his own.
Sail on Sailor, fast or slow, it is up to the Gods
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