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post #21 of 25 Old 08-06-2007
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Ligal, I am not joking now.

Let me tell you that in my case, its quite easy, as my wife loves sailing, and altough she prefers we cruise in relax mode, she knows that it is my job to sail the boat, and doesn't care how I do it. Now having this said, she doesn't really mind if I am trying to beat another boat or not, as long as she is confortable and I don't call her to help me. (once she has asked me who I was racing against, because there was no boat in sight, I was trying to bat my own record time on that particular leg, so in the end...I still race against my self). (thanks SD!!)

Truth is my son Fred, we could say a sailor also, does help me with trim and is excellent at keeping heading and apparent wind, so my wife can have her time.

However, note, that if conditions so justify, I will motor or reef to provide her the maximum confort. She has to deal with our little bugger, 16 month Luis, so we kind share the shores.

Again, its a compromise, and there is time to sit, and drink her "Caipirinhas", as well as there is time to play with the other boats...balance and compromise are in my opinion key factor to a satisfactory relationship in a sailboat...I know if I boss around, aor don't make her happy she will not want to come with me.

I am blessed by having a wife like that.

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Ah, yes, the sweet little cherry Caipirinhas...too many will give you a headache, I think.

I raced in one of the more competitive clubs in my country for five seasons, and my skipper got two firsts, two thirds and a second in his division. I was a part of that, and I learned a great deal. I personally don't have the money nor the desire to race my own boat (although the guy I loaned it to is racing it, because it's a good racer), but I do cruise in a racing style, and I like squeezing out every knot I can, even in a cruising situation. This is not so much out of competition with the elements or with my own humble skills, but because a boat sailed to its limits, even if those limits are modest, is generally a happy and balance thing in tune with its elements of air and water.

As a cruiser now who still occasionally races, I get some funny looks when passing other boaters in my very un-racer-like boat, and they hear my wife and I calling out the standard "Ready?" "Ready about" "Helm's a-lee" "GRIND!" "Haul in!' "There is your course...trim...good!"

All this in fifteen seconds or so.

The fact is that I can get my hulking steel freight car of a boat through the eye of the wind faster and more effectively than many a Beneteau or Hunter skipper can, because I have some skills learned as a racer. While I am familiar with the obsessive "win at all costs" and "squeeze out the last tenth of a knot" types of sailor, I don't really see the distinction. I feel that effective and efficient sailing, whether for racing or cruising purposes, is simply good seamanship in action.
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The skills you pick up racing are beneficial to the cruising sailor... but there is no need to have the pressures of the race when there is no race to be won. However, much is to be said for cleanly executing a tack and getting the boat on course with minimal disruption—whether racing or cruising.


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post #24 of 25 Old 08-07-2007
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Camaraderie says; Sue...the solution is to go on a Pacific downhill run cruise to the Marquesas..He'll run around adjusting things at first....then...After 3000 miles of the same wind on the same point of sail he'll figure out that there's nothing much else he can do and give up looking for buoys!
This is a smart man and that is a fantastic idea. You are not trying to change him, just want to share his time.

Valiente says, I feel that effective and efficient sailing, whether for racing or cruising purposes, is simply good seamanship in action.

Tdw says, I think Alex slightly misinterpreted SM's meaning but he is right as far as the manner in which Europeans view getting down and dirty.

You are right he did. I hope I misunderstood his crude response. Apparently, even in this day and age there are still some men like those that Giu describes. I am lucky I’m not married to one. Skip makes ever effort to make sure I am comfortable. He also makes sure I know how to take care of myself.

So far, we have always been in the lead when around others, but still for ourselves, we always try to do our best. Like Giu says, you race yourself.

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No doubt. Whenever we change tack or jybe we keep it crisp and quick. My wife and my kids have gotten into that habit as well. Once the new course is layed and trim is set, we just chill out and enjoy.
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