Multiple Signons - Knotaloud, lurkette, etc

[bestfriend]

I like most of you guys, but WAKE UP! This is the internet, the world of alias! I think we do a pretty good job of all getting along and having a decent environment, for what this is. My six year old learns worse behavior from spongebob. Those of us who constantly jab at each other are friends and can handle it, we have thick skin, and don't take it personally. How can you take the internet personally????????? These people don't know you, what do you care about what they say about you, or what they do? Switch it off, hit the ignore button, stay off the "off topic". One bad apple sets everyone off(and he/she needs help). Humor is a good thing, remember? If your feelings get hurt, PM the person, say "hey, please don't say that" I have offended people here and gone back to apologize, wow, just like in real life, it works. Maybe Anonymity lets people take it too far. Of all the people on here, I think Mr. Gainer is the most consistent. He stays out of the muck, he understands that he has that option. When this topic comes up he just says, "I don't like it". But he DOES NOT get involved in the muck and then step back and say he doesn't like it.
Edit-I try my best to keep the muck out of the serious information threads. That is important to me and others needing good information.

[SchoonerMISTRESS]

Zum Zum
I never said the post were vulgar and not clean enough for me. I did say I could probably make some blush with some good jokes of my own.

I think John Pollard said it very well. This is a community.

By agitation, if you mean what took place a few days ago, I did not do the Ohhh I'm a girl thing. I was sound a sleep when it all went down and the Moderators did the fixing of that situation before my nap was over. At this point, I am just trying to make sure I understand what this forum is for before I recommend it to others. If its R rated, I know who I can recommend it to. If it's lets say PG 13, well then fine. These days, most anyone can play here then and also get good information to sailors, new, old, meek, and bold.
Kathleen
aboard
Schooner MISTRESS
PS. I'm an old salt too.

[zumzum]

Originally Posted by SchoonerMISTRESS

Zum Zum
I never said the post were vulgar and not clean enough for me. I did say I could probably make some blush with some good jokes of my own.



By agitation, if you mean what took place a few days ago, I did not do the Ohhh I'm a girl thing. I was sound a sleep when it all went down and the Moderators did the fixing of that situation before my nap was over. At this point, I am just trying to make sure I understand what this forum is for before I recommend it to others. If its R rated, I know who I can recommend it to. If it's lets say PG 13, well then fine. These days, most anyone can play here then and also get good information to sailors, new, old, meek, and bold.
Kathleen
aboard
Schooner MISTRESS
PS. I'm an old salt too.

That is not what I understood when you wrote this...

Originally Posted by SchoonerMISTRESS

Hey guys,
Just wanted to let you know I have asked Schooner MISTRESS to be removed as a member from sailnet. I placed a note on my site apologizing for my original recommendation of the site and then simply said this is not a family friendly site. MISTRESS has a distinguished 77-year history and I have done my best to have a clean web site for her. (Actually, she apparently ran rum for a few years back in prohibition days, but who here is without sin.)

Also, you did start the agitation in that thread, IIRC, with the Hunter jokes, albeit being told several times not to do it, by other members. Nothing wrong with it, just don't complain when the roles are reversed. Simple huh?

This site does not neeed rating, as you are trying to impose, it needs mutual understanding of what it has to offer, and what you have to offer. It also needs mutual respect. I know of several children that post here, I hope with their parents consent and approval, and I have not seen them complain yet, both their parents or the children themselves.

Once you understand the rules, it becomes clear. Simple

[camaraderie]

Jpollard:
And why do the moderators not delete the questionable photos that some posters include with their aliases?

I am not aware of any offensive photos on this site that can not be seen on magazine stands, TV and other widely available sources like Yahoo and Google. As always...offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder.. but I'm sure the other mods or I are open to looking at anything you deem offensive and correcting it if w agree that it violates our standards. Just send a PM anytime.
I would not look for this site to be G rated. We are a site primarily designed for adults...but for adults that know there are kids who drop in and choose our words accordingly. The fun and the joking around among friends is for me the greatest appeal of the site and is also what distinguishes Sailnet from some of the other boards. Good answers...good fun.

[Joel73]

ZumZum... Schooner Mistress was making a joke and i don't think she even knew the history on picking on Giu about his boat being "Hunter-like" ... maybe i'm wrong but i knew that it was a joke. Then... Giu got a little heated because that joke has kinda been run into the ground... heck i would get pretty tired of it too. Then... along comes knotaloud aka smurf(lurk)ette aka a few more alias which was all the same person and THAT is when the agitation started. Everything was fine until that kid started riling everyone (myself included) up.

I do agree with your initial post ZumZum and thank you for adding that.

Schooner Mistress... I am relatively new here but i've been here long enough to see how things work and it's obvious to me that there were no problems with this kinda of stuff before the blowup thread a couple days ago. I don't think this site will ever be G rated and if it is then let's put Mickey Mouse on the front page and call it a kids site... ain't gonna happen. Kids are exposed to WAY worse things these days than ANYTHING i've seen here on sailnet.


Best Friend - I couldn't agree more!!!

To all:
I agree that more focus would be beneficial to us all... and i'll do my part to not offend with whatever i post... BUT... ineviatably i will piss someone off and we'll work it out and then things will be fine. life goes on.

[zumzum]

Originally Posted by camaraderie

Jpollard:
And why do the moderators not delete the questionable photos that some posters include with their aliases?

I am not aware of any offensive photos on this site that can not be seen on magazine stands, TV and other widely available sources like Yahoo and Google. As always...offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder.. but I'm sure the other mods or I are open to looking at anything you deem offensive and correcting it if w agree that it violates our standards. Just send a PM anytime.
I would not look for this site to be G rated. We are a site primarily designed for adults...but for adults that know there are kids who drop in and choose our words accordingly. The fun and the joking around among friends is for me the greatest appeal of the site and is also what distinguishes Sailnet from some of the other boards. Good answers...good fun.

Halleluiah, Cam, thanks for being so unbiased.

[Joel73]

Originally Posted by camaraderie

The fun and the joking around among friends is for me the greatest appeal of the site and is also what distinguishes Sailnet from some of the other boards. Good answers...good fun.

Thank you for that Cam.

This would not be Sailnet without the jokes... even though they can get questionable sometimes. I come to Sailnet to learn and to have fun... in that order. A little reminder that younger kids are around is a good thing and we should all keep that in mind... but again... there is nothing wrong with the way things have been except for a few trolls that have recently come out of the woodwork to agitate people.

[bestfriend]

Originally Posted by T34C

OK, I clearly missed all the fun, but I have 3 questions.

1) When did CD become a Moderator???
2) How is it possible that a thread announcing that someone is banned has a reply in it from that person????
3) Have I ever told you guys I'm thinking of buying a Catalina 400???

You know, on second thought, you're pulling my leg about the 400 aren't you. Can't believe I fell for that.

[sailaway21]

Well.

All I see are a bunch of straw men being set up, easily knocked down. I am particularly interested in Lefty's concerns about derogatory and demeaning comments about women. Being an aficionado of womanhood I am amazed that I was somehow able to overlook the comments he found. On the contrary, it has been my experience that women, in particular, along with the youth have been treated exceedingly well and graciously here. In fact, most sailnetters with any time at all on the board are quick to PM each other if they think one of their fellow's posts was by the lee. I have received such PMs and sent them. In no case was the PM I sent blown off or ignored. And I did not ignore the one's sent to me. We have been, for the most part, self policing and doing a pretty good job of it too.

"Off Topic" is off topic. There's no telling what you might find there, although most of it is rather banal. No doubt due to my contributions. If you are here for sailing information only you have no business in Off Topic.

If a sketch of a man with a Danforth anchor lodged in his posterior offends you I am not sure how you navigate the pages of your newspaper without similar offense. Obviously, TV viewing is out as well.

On the other hand. I have witnessed individuals join this forum with the opening question being that they just bought a boat, how do I get it off the trailer, how do I put the mast up, and how do I sail it. They were walked through each and every step, with graciousness, and in no small time were sailing about. They have stayed, helped others, and continue to ask new questions. They bought books, read them, and came back with questions about what they read. That's how it's suppossed to work, and does.

Quite a few of us have been splicing line for longer than others have been adrift in the world. We do not know it all. In fact, the reason we're here is we learn something new all the time. Hopefully we're able to share some of our knowledge. It is totally unreasonable to expect that, with time, there won't be some kiddiing around. People who cannot take a joke or laugh at themselves and other's perceptions of them do not do well here. Of course, they don't do well at sea or in life either, but we're only concerned with here.

If one stays around, one will find that those who exist just for trouble-making and dissention are either ignored or made uncomfortable enough to realise that they are not contributing to the advance of the site and they leave. On rare occassions they are banned. I have lost count of the number of those who, unable to incite anarchy, have just disappeared. It is significant that I cannot really even remember their names. I remember every name of every poster I learned something from, though.

And so, to Lefty, Mr. Pollard, and to a degree Mistress- I say, "quadrantal correctors"!

[tomaz_423]

Kathleen,
The moment i saw your first post I thought "another Joe's friend or even himself under another name".
Then I realised you came in the middle of a heated debate not knowing all the history. I was sure you will withdraw quickly - some of the posts were really rude to you.
But you managed to defend your stand and fight for your opinion and even more - you proved to be a voice of wisdom and the whole debate became more civilised.
And this is exactly what we need. people like you - able to fight if needed, but stay on a civilised level.
Your example is influencing others in a good way.
Stay and make this site a better place.
There are people here who are joking a lot (Giu for example) - but I think he never crossed the line (when he photoshopped me I almost felt privileged). He could have taken my other picture (with my wife), but he did not. Same goes for most of the others.
Do not let one rotten apple spoil our fun here.