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Kathleen...
1. You became a senior member so quickly because you post a lot. 100 posts = Senior Member. You can post 100 songs on the song thread a be a senior member overnight.
2. Most people on most boards are lurkers...not contributors. Right now there are 40 members on line and over 400 lurkers. Typically a 10:1 ratio. And even most members of most boards do not contribute that often. I am an active member of 4 other sailing boards and RARELY post on those...does that mean THEY are doing something wrong? No...they each have their place and appeal to different people. NONE of them have anywhere near the active membership of sailnet or the appeal for me that sailnet does.
3. I don't have access to any of Sailnet's data...but I do follow the front page stats and know that membership is up over 10000 from a few months ago. Sounds like a lot more people are finding the site and deciding to sign on after taking a look.
4. I would also ask you to take a look at the most popular threads on this and all the other sailing sites. They have little to do with how to tie a bowline.
While I agree that some things went over the top recently due to lack of moderation...that is now fixed. I don't agree with your proposed "solutions" since there is no problem. If there was, we wouldn't be growing at the rate we are.
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SENIOR CHIEF
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....well....I see this thread just continues to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on....Good Grief!
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08-12-2007
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SchoonerMISTRESS.
Please read what is under my name, can you see that? you can write pretty much anything there, you don't get to be a senior member here because of the things you write, its how many posts you wrote that gives you the status, plus, you can change it to whatever you want. I just did.
Good point about post #7. However, and since you are the one bringing that thread here, and you are strongly advocating for a "moral cleanse" here, read post #6.
Seniors lead by example.
I can see you're still after Giu, at any cost. Did he hit a sore spot?
Edited: I saw your site, and if I was the owner of Sailnet, I would be thinking about your presence here, after what you wrote in your blog.
what is your objective after all?
Vist ours.
Last edited by zumzum; 08-12-2007 at 11:52 AM.
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08-12-2007
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Operating life w/o a net
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My appologize to all. I really am sorry. I didn't mean harm.
Kathleen
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08-12-2007
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Wandering Aimlessly
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It is quite easy to misunderstand someone when all you have are words on a computer screen, without any tone of voice, body english, etc. One has to remember though, that this board, like all discussion boards, is a compendium of peoples opinions. Some have more knowledge or experience to back up their opinions, some less, but unless it is a provable fact, then it's just that person's opinion ...... and certainly not something to go ballistic about.
I have agreed, and disagreed with many on here, on many different subjects, but just because we don't agree on, say the right anchor, doesn't mean their opinion has no value, on that, or any other subject. Also, we all have things that we read, that "jerk our chain". That's only natural given the diversity of people on the board. What differentiates those who respond is, whether they do so with rancor, or goodwill. Putting someone down because you don't agree with them, solves nothing for anyone. And certainly isn't necessary if you have a valid point to make. It only diminishes the effect of your point. And impresses no one.
This isn't directed at any one person, it's only meant as a general statement about interacting with others on the board. Those of you who have read my posts are aware on some things I have very strong and definite opinions, but you won't see me putting someone down if they don't agree with me. Nor do I resort to name calling or finger pointing. So, if I can do it, any one can.
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08-12-2007
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Super Fuzzy Moderator
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What's the old saying ? "All the world's a little mad excepting thee and me and even thees a little".
Personally I reckon that personal villification is quite acceptable in the right circumstances. The likes of the Cape Cod Dork, Mr Multiple Personality, Bulldog Moron etc deserve to be verbally crucified and no one will convince me otherwise. On the other hand robust argument is not villification and simply because someone has a different outlook or moral stance is no reason to drive them away. Hate mongering on the other hand deserves the chop.
SM mentions Alex's Post # 7 in the Cruiser/Racer thread. I've been back and reread it and quite frankly find nothing objectionable about it whatsoever.
As for this site being family friendly or not I (and the emphasis is very much on the I) don't give a toss. The slightly blue humour, robust debate and general silliness is no more risque than anything you hear in a yacht club bar , or any bar for that matter, anywhere in the world.
Previously I was a regular conributor to one other sailing group but left because I was moderated out of the place. The beige set completely took over and any reference to anyone that was even slightly out of line was censored, including calling power boaters, stink potters. Apparently there were some poor little diddums who visited the site and complained every time the likes of me slagged a power boater. I considered that to be a complete load of bollocks and went on my merry way.
My view, for what it's worth, is that this is not a site for children. On the other hand it is also not a site for hatemongers or, for that matter prayer groups. It's a site for adults. Let it always remain so.
One point I would make is that while one of the opposition (Sailing Anarchy) is far more free and easy than here the level of debate is pathetic. On , say, the OCC or SSCA boards, the discussion is all about serious stuff, no frivolity whatsoever and that's fine as well. It's all horses for courses and to my mind SailNet hits the spot, given what it is.
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Hitchin' a ride
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*****Buuuuuuuurp******
You're right, that did hit the spot.
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Last Grumpy Old Sailor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailaway21
If a sketch of a man with a Danforth anchor lodged in his posterior offends you...
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Hahaha! The Admiral and I both laughed our a... er, posteriors off over that one!
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08-12-2007
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For my .02 cents, Alex was the one who outed knotaloud, so I'd bet knotaloud was looking for a reason to attack Alex. It's not a surprise that some one who lies about himself and pretends to be multiple people, so he can agree with him self, would go ballistic on the person who called him out.
I've got to say, I've checked out the other forums. Their pretty informative, but a tad boring. I'm glad to tell a newbie how my snark sailed, or chime in on the strength of galvie rigging, but I check this site multiple times a day to see if any thing fun has been posted. If it wasn't for the funny stuff that gets posted, there would be alot less members posting, and alot less opinions to see.
I'd hate to see sailnet go to a boring kid friendly site. I don't know that many kids that frequent sailing sites, and I 'm sure there is a site for them somewhere else.
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Peace, Courtney
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PRECISELY! I agree with Wombat and Danjarch. The point is, that the majority of posters here do try to maintain a modicum of civility while maintaining a sense of humor, albeit one not suitable for all audiences at all times. I am new here, but I intend to stick around because I see this site for what it is, a good place to get valuable advice and shot of humor when needed, as well as some lively debate. The rancour and dissent that has been sown lately was done so by someone who seems to have succeeded beyond their wildest aims at starting a pretty decent argument amongst people who wouldn't otherwise give a hang!
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