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Bad thing about the perfect pole and hooknife - you cut the line and lose some fisherman's lobster pot. I hate to interfere with a man's livelihood and am glad to see that ortega seems to feel that way too. The hooknife won't get the last two turns off the shaft anyway, so you will have to dive to restore the engine.
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Diving is the only way to ensure that all rope is removed. Fortunately, I've yet to have the need for that with this boat - learned the hard way years ago though.
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I had so much hope for this thread...
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Do you mean: "it's just a jump to .. port?"
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I can personally claim that no pots were ever lost due to any efforts on my part to untangle warp from any of my boat's props.

It's commendable that otaga went to such great efforts.
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While I will generally do my best to keep the pot and the buoy connected... however, the lobster pots are now being found in places they really shouldn't be in. Around Buzzards Bay, many are putting their pots in navigation channels and I don't see any reason to go above and beyond to try and save the buoy and pot if the owner is going to be inconsiderate enought to clutter up a channel with his buoys.

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Bad thing about the perfect pole and hooknife - you cut the line and lose some fisherman's lobster pot. I hate to interfere with a man's livelihood and am glad to see that ortega seems to feel that way too. The hooknife won't get the last two turns off the shaft anyway, so you will have to dive to restore the engine.
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Of course, there is the other alternative... which I used accidentally last summer... We had snagged a lobster pot line but I wasn't aware of it, since we were still making over five knots in less than eight knots of wind. By the time we slowed and got the pot free... we had dragged it the better part of a nautical mile... It probably took him a while to find it.

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Thanks for the suggestion about the hook knife Freesail, but I really do have a problem with just cutting the warp and as someone else indicated, the dive on a drifting boat would still be necessary, and as I was alone, significantly more dangerous. Each trap setup probably cost the fisherman more than $100, so no matter how frustrating the only time I would just cut is if the vessel was in immediate danger due to the entanglement.

Rev Mike, this type of thing "....can really drive you insane"

Sailingdog, I really do wonder about what some fishermen are thinking some times with pot placement. I came home one day recently to find that somone had dropped his trap right smack in the middle of the entrance buoys to my home port which are less than 100 ft apart. The other thing which drives me nuts is when they leave more than 50 ft of warp between the float and the toggle and set then the line so that it is only about three feet below the surface.

I read an interesting article in the New York Times Magazine some years ago which discussed a lobster fishing system which I believe was used in Australia. The system was that only a certain number of fishing permits existed, sort of like cab medallions in NYC. They could be traded on the open market for whatever price they would fetch. The net result was that the fishermen had to set and haul significantly less in the way of traps to achieve an economically viable catch. Less work, less diesel burned fewer traps cluttering up the water. I have often wondered whether such a system could ever fly in the US. But it really does seem that the number of traps and the lack of judgement in their placement increases from year to year.
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It's commendable that otaga went to such great efforts.
I agree with this whole heartedly. I spent a summer pulling lobsta traps, it's damn hard work and those who do it full time for a living deserve some serious respect. Like the rest of the world, some don't follow the rules and make it difficult for others (re placement of traps).

Poll question (mid thread): anyone willing to admit pulling up a trap to 'get lunch' while out for a sail? If so, did you leave $ and how much?

(That was the most unexpected thing the first time i pulled up a trap and saw a glass jar with money in it (forget how much). Learned some new swear words from the skipper that day!)

(otaga - Thanks for the 'Rocky Horror' reminder, going to pull out the soundtrack and annoy the wife this weekend)
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