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post #1 of 5 Old 09-06-2007 Thread Starter
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Blooper sails....

I found two bloopers in excellent shape in my recently acquired Frers First 456.
I know they were used in the past. Has anyone used this things before? Are they useful?

Has anyone ever tried to re-cut them to make a useful down wind sail?

Is it worth keeping them?
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Hardly anyone uses them any more. They were meant for pretty much dead downwind sailing. To increase sail area especialy with the smaller IOR type mains at the time. With later boats most mains are bigger so this is not much of an issue. Also the theory was that you got a more balanced sail plan which would reduce rolling in heavier air. Today tweekers (twings) do this much more effectively.

If you have them play with them but in my opinion they are not much use. I got one on my latest boat but have not even put it on the boat.

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Gary's bang on.

No one uses these anymore.. takes an extra body or two and requires dousing for every gybe, then resetting. Not worth the hassle these days.
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TWO bloopers? I can just imagine the previous owner yelling to the crew digging through the sails "Get the NEW blooper!".

Bloopers came into their own with the IOR design; skinny little main (not much more than a trim-tab) and pinched stern. When it starts to blow, the big kites on the IOR boats start to make them roll side to side, and those pinched transoms tend not to stay behind the boat for long.

So, how do you fix that? More sail.
Deploy the blooper on the opposite side from the spin pole (same side as the main) and ease, Ease, EASE the halyard until the bottom of the sail is just tapping along the top of the water. Yep, you trim the halyard as much as the sheet. You need a crew on each. The sheet must go WAY out there;. this sail likes to project way out. It gets the air going under the main and air that is outboard of the main, plus some air coming off the leach of the spinnaker.
Sometimes it really does stop the rolling!

You can only use the blooper with the wind dead aft to maybe 15 degrees off. Best if you use this for a distance race, since you have to take it down for a gybe. You will see a speed increase of .5 to 1kn or more with a blooper.

BUT, that being said, if it is really windy and you just don't want to put up the kite, you can set a blooper without a pole, and it will do a good job of dragging you downwind. It just might fool your competitors into thinking that you actually Have set your kite, causing them to hoist theirs and round up!

I think a boat running under kite and blooper is a really awesome sight.
(I still use 'em with a full crew).
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I saw a pic once of an IOR warhorse with two bloopers flying, one high and one low. It looked cool and I heard it works but trim would be a nightmare. I reckon it's better than the IOR doubledip when running DDW.
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