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Just cranky today.

I was in no way implying forum members were Know it alls. I was refering to people in general. This place is great!

I like to race on other peoples boats too. It hurts so see them blow a $5000 chute . . . but I get over it easier. I can't afford that kind of thing myself. I enjoyed the heck out of racing our Coronado 15 as a teenager. It was affordable.
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In no way does racing help prepare you for the myriad tasks and skills required for safe and comfortable cruising - things like choosing anchorages, securely setting the hook for overnights, outfitting the boat itself for comfort and (shorthanded) safety.

But there's nothing like racing to teach you how to get the most out of your boat's potential performance. Having other boats nearby trying to do the same thing allows you to benchmark your settings and immediately see improvements. It also allows you to better judge the effects of currents and wind shifts across a body of water.

Some of these things may not be so important to a cruiser, but in an area that gets crowded, sailing as fast as reasonable may mean the difference between arriving at a harbour in time for the last mooring bouy or the best anchoring nook. Not to mention the satisfaction of having shaved an hour off your last similar passage.

There's room for both schools, and that's the beauty of this sport.
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It really comes down to whether you let others define you, or you define yourself. What matters is that YOU enjoy YOUR time on YOUR boat. Doesn't matter how you do that, just as long as that is what you do.
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Stereotypes and generalizations are oversimplifications that may well represent statistical summaries but aren't "truth." Nevertheless, some such simplicifications can be informative or at least entertaining.

Racing can teach you a lot about moving the boat through the water. I'm not suggesting you plan a passage with a full racing crew. I do think that if you understand the implications of halyard tension, jib car position, vang tension, and backstay tension you can carve some serious time off that ocean passage.

On the other hand, there is hardly anything more entertaining than watching a horde of racers trying to dock at the end of a long point-to-point race.

The "best" sailors I know are either cruisers who race or racers who cruise. There is no substitute for varied experience.

Me? I cruise my boat and race OPB.
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When I raced big boats the "marine domestic" or paid hand taught me more about sailing than any other person ever has. The biggest lessons were how to jury rig in gear breakdowns. He made me confidant by removing the fear factor. I sincerely believe that without his sharing of knowledge, I would never have come to the enjoyment levels I have.
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IMHO, having some racing experience is probably a good thing for any cruiser.

There are certain skills that get emphasized in racing that are beneficial to the cruising sailor. Learning to maximize the performance of the boat in light air is something that any cruiser can benefit from. Learning to de-power the main to keep the boat under control in heavy air is another. However, there is a lot of stuff that racers do that really are irrelavant for the cruising sailor. Most cruising sailors aren't going to have the crew or the patience to deal with a symetrical spinnaker when asymetrical spinnakers are much simpler to deal with short-handed. Most cruising sailors have to know about heaving-to, dealing with heavy weather, anchoring, provisioning a boat for a voyage, and many other things that most racers don't really pay attention to.

The more advanced knowledge of sail shape and handling that you get from racing is definitely to your advantage if you cruise, but it isn't necessary to have to cruise. Conversely, knowing how to set a tandem anchor or a bahamian moor setup isn't generally required for the racer... but knowing it wouldn't hurt them.
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Competition drives improvement harder and further than it would normally happen without it.

If you don't feel the need to improve faster, don't race.
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Stereotypes and generalizations are oversimplifications that may well represent statistical summaries but aren't "truth."

ROFLMAO.

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