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I think perhaps all RC’s read from the same playbook and use the same criteria to call the off a race. Some clubs fudge it a little bit over here however. One in particular, pulls in the wind reading from their club house which is relatively sheltered. And I have no idea how they access the conditions outside the Gate. The last Lightship I race I was in had winds in the mid-thirties on the downwind run back from the bucket – we had incredible surfs but were marginally under control. One of those days where if we crashed, it wasn’t going to be pretty

I think the 155 would be way overpowered in winds 25-35. Your previous owner must have put in a double reef in those conditions. A 130/120 (especially an arimid or pentex construction) would keep your boat on her feet much better IMHO. Normally, I’m pretty aggressive on the starting line, but in storm conditions, all the boats are going to be heaving all around and I’d rather do a clean start than risk doing some penalty turns. So I “open it up” a little more and also, I want my crew to stay strong all the way to the end so the jib stays rolled up until my last acceleration to the starting line. You will be amazed how well and fast your boat maneuvers under main alone in high wind conditions. The reaching leg is tough. You can have traveler all the way down sails board flat and you’ll still be on your ear. A couple more thoughts: Can you rig your fairleads to the toe rail? And of course, you know you want maximum tension on all control lines – halyards, Cunningham, outhaul, backstay, etc.

Once again, good luck! Let us know what happens no matter what you decide. This weekend we’re ashore so I want to live vicariously. (Although I’m going to my first Pacific Cup race preparation seminar!)
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Our club cancels with sustained winds over 25 knots. BUT< I will point out, the majority of the boats are under 32', with a couple 32-37'. Waves will be in the 3-5' range. A lot probably depends upon the conditions one will hit.

My last race started down wind. So I manuvered with the main only, then just before crossing the line, gun going off, put the spiny up. Worked well other than crew was green on the spinnaker part of the race! Low to Mid twenties in my 30'r is single reef, and a 110. I am pretty close to needing a double reef, with a smaller crew, ie less than te 6 200 lbsrs I have, then it would be a double reef for upwind stuff, downwind is full sails, reach a single reef works well.

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Let us know what happens no matter what you decide.
Ended-up flying the #3 and the main with a reef. Sailflow said winds were 20+ kts, gusting the 27 kts. One of the other boats said gusts were 30 kts, and another concurred.

It was all we could handle. (Or maybe a bit more--considering our experience.)

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Sounds like nice sailing weather to me...
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Sounds like nice sailing weather to me...
The Admiral felt it was a bit much. She's still a bit twitchy about the rail going in the water. Trying to convince her it's exceedingly unlikely to even broach, much less go over, in that kind of wind with a reefed main and a #3. I think once she gets a bit more used to it, and we get adept at getting things trimmed properly, she'll get over it.

See Check Me On This, Please?, over in Learning to Sail, for a more complete explanation of what we were experiencing and my thoughts on it.

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My rail doesn't go in the water unless the water is breaking over it...

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The Admiral felt it was a bit much. She's still a bit twitchy about the rail going in the water. Trying to convince her it's exceedingly unlikely to even broach, much less go over, in that kind of wind with a reefed main and a #3. I think once she gets a bit more used to it, and we get adept at getting things trimmed properly, she'll get over it.

See Check Me On This, Please?, over in Learning to Sail, for a more complete explanation of what we were experiencing and my thoughts on it.

Oh... I see you already did

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if she's a heavy boat, and heeling at the dock under bare poles, repair to the bar and wait it out... ;-)
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