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George, what'd you guys do with the mizzen staysail when tacking? Seems like a lot of work to pull the tack, run around the house and reset while it's trying to pull ya off the boat or did ya douse, reset and then rehoist?
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Zita was a Marconi rigged schooner so our set up is a little bit different than the ketch depicted. Back in the day we called that free-flying sail off the mizzen a blooper and I’m assuming (we didn’t have one) that you do a take-down before you gybe’d the boat. Our forward staysail was timed with a single line like a mainsheet. We were rigged with a fisherman’s trysail which was a trapezoidal affair that had two halyards suspending it between the mast heads. The toe went to the base of the foremast and the sheet went down to the deck and back up to the pin rail for the mainmast. It was used to fill in the gap between the head of the foresail and the mainmast and the foresail could tack underneath it without much interference (Besides, I was forepeak. Once those sails were flying it was someone else’s problem!) It didn’t get much trimming once set as it didn’t overlap the mainmast, but setting it sometimes was a handful.
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no top gallant, actually you look great!
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Sorry Alex, I was off working down in the garage all afternoon...
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Nice vintage photograph. Very reminiscent of Roy Disney’s old Shamrock. Ah! The good old days when IOR warhorses roamed S.F. Bay, sails were Dacron and braided line was for wimps! About that time I was crewing on a 50’ (LOD) schooner out of San Rafael, California. We’d sail five upwind then swap the genoa out for a spinnaker for the run “home”. Highlights for (a much, much younger) me was racing Wanderbird in the Master Mariners each year. Thanks for the trip down memory road.
Not so old, you can find more at http://sailboat46.tripod.com/
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Yeah, I've seen IOR boats with Bloopers flying but they were usually four cornered affairs that looked like rectangular kites on a string. Yeah, that topgallant could be a PITA if the hoist was screwed up. Oh Joy has the Assym, 150 Genny, Staysail (club footed), Main, Mizzen Staysail and Mizzen. Judging from the fact I have a tiedown loop next to the mainmast, my mizzen staysail probably flies like that one. I just wish I could see where the clew is running to. It almost looks like it's routed back to the Mizzen boom.

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They're listed above. The Assym doesn't draw well with the Genny out though but does fine with the Staysail.
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...at any rate, you got to admit this is one cool sailboat...I think I'm going to buy it. What yuns think?
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It is cool so why not? Ya ready to put some time and elbow grease into something like that? Regardless of what he said, I'd replace the mizzen because being a ketch, the mainmast is too far forward and the boom too short to convert it to a sloop. You'd lose a lot of control and speed without the mizzen.
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It is cool so why not? Ya ready to put some time and elbow grease into something like that? Regardless of what he said, I'd replace the mizzen because being a ketch, the mainmast is too far forward and the boom too short to convert it to a sloop. You'd lose a lot of control and speed without the mizzen.
Charlie, I totally agree and was thinking the same rational sh*t as you.
WTF are they trying to say anyway?! I love sailing with alot of sheet. I used to sail my Morgan with 3 sheets to the wind and a fourth flappin on standby....
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