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There is a big difference between a couple of drips from the end of the hose and a bucket full of poo.
True. A couple of drips of raw sewage from the end of a hose presents a health hazard whereas a bucket of properly composted poo doesn't.
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True. A couple of drips of raw sewage from the end of a hose presents a health hazard whereas a bucket of properly composted poo doesn't.
When you are dumping the waste from a boat that you just used the head on this morning, the poo is not composted at all. It takes weeks to decompose and therefore you would be dumping a pile of poo.

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I like how you contradict yourself... you said in an earlier post that the bucket or composting head doesn't COMPOST the POO...that happens in a compost pile... so instead of a few drops of sewage from a hose, you have an entire BUCKET OF POO to deal with...

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I like how you contradict yourself... you said in an earlier post that the bucket or composting head doesn't COMPOST the POO...that happens in a compost pile... so instead of a few drops of sewage from a hose, you have an entire BUCKET OF POO to deal with...

I'm not contradicting myself at all. I never said that it's is composted when you dump it. What I am saying is that if you dump it into a compost pile where it is allowed to compost it is not a health hazard whereas raw sewage on a dock certainly is.

What part of that are you guy's not understanding?
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So, instead of a few drops of raw sewage, you advocate walking around with a FULL BUCKET OF RAW SEWAGE....which is still a biohazard UNTIL IT IS COMPOSTED.

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I'm not contradicting myself at all. I never said that it's is composted when you dump it. What I am saying is that if you dump it into a compost pile where it is allowed to compost it is not a health hazard whereas raw sewage on a dock certainly is.

What part of that are you guy's not understanding?

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On a boat, where do you keep a compost pile? If you dump it on shore here in the keys, you would be arrested especially since that turd from this morning is still steaming.

I'm not bashing these things, but they just don't seem appropriate for cruisers or liveaboards. Like I said earlier, this could change if the marina was willing to put in large compost bins.

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Did I really just reply to a two and a half year old thread?
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Yup, you sure did!

We shouldn't "dump" on the OP too much. 2.5 years later, Victoria is still one of two Canadian cities (I won't mention the other city because they are implementing sewage treatment plans) that do not treat sewage before discharge into the sea. Pretty disgusting.

The OP isn't the only Victoria resident who needs an attitude change. Unfortunately, Greater Victoria politicians are still looking for excuses not to do anything.

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On a boat, where do you keep a compost pile? If you dump it on shore here in the keys, you would be arrested especially since that turd from this morning is still steaming.

I'm not bashing these things, but they just don't seem appropriate for cruisers or liveaboards. Like I said earlier, this could change if the marina was willing to put in large compost bins.
You would need a fairly large boat to have a compost pile. However, as I mentioned earlier, it is pretty simple to simply snap on the lid and store the bucket until such time an appropriate dumping place can be found. In fact, with the introduction of some Black Soldier fly larvae and earthworms the composting can be accomplished in the bucket.

Still, I understand your point and actually, liveaboard cruisers are actually a small percentage of boat owners.
The vast majority are day sailors and weekenders who could very easily use composting heads.
A huge number of people on land could easily convert to composting. Not just their humanure but their kitchen scraps, lawn clippings etc. etc.

Hopefully as awareness increases and the demand increases the marinas will add bins. As it stands now, most of the cruisers who do use composting toilets (and there are a lot of them who in spite of Maine's experience are very satisfied) simply dump the contents into the marina dumpsters. Both wasteful and unsanitary. At least most of them put it into plastic bags first.

In the meantime, if anyone needs to dump their compost in the Tampa Bay area. I offer my compost pile.

Nothing changes if no one challenges the norm.
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You would need a fairly large boat to have a compost pile. However, as I mentioned earlier, it is pretty simple to simply snap on the lid and store the bucket until such time an appropriate dumping place can be found. In fact, with the introduction of some Black Soldier fly larvae and earthworms the composting can be accomplished in the bucket.
That makes it kind of difficult to go if the need should occur.

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Still, I understand your point and actually, liveaboard cruisers are actually a small percentage of boat owners.
The vast majority are day sailors and weekenders who could very easily use composting heads.
A huge number of people on land could easily convert to composting. Not just their humanure but their kitchen scraps, lawn clippings etc. etc.
I concur.

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Hopefully as awareness increases and the demand increases the marinas will add bins. As it stands now, most of the cruisers who do use composting toilets (and there are a lot of them who in spite of Maine's experience are very satisfied) simply dump the contents into the marina dumpsters. Both wasteful and unsanitary. At least most of them put it into plastic bags first.

In the meantime, if anyone needs to dump their compost in the Tampa Bay area. I offer my compost pile.

Nothing changes if no one challenges the norm.
Again I concur. There were quite a large number of Canadians who were down here with composting toilets, but I have no idea where they were dumping.

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