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Old 11-14-2007
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TB, don't hold back, please tell us how you really feel.


Oh, and just FYI, it's fecal coliform, but I know you were busy and in a hurry.
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fecal chloroform bacteria.
I agree with you to a very large extent; but probably mostly in areas with semi-limited flow, like any harbor or cove and most estuaries; even big places like the Chesapeake.

Less so in distinctly open water, like 3 or 4 miles into the Gulf of Maine; at least in the levels we're talking about here.
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Duly noted and corrected Ajari. Sorry for the rant - I'm in a pissed-off mood today. I meant no disrespect to Hoffalives - personally, just the attitude that his **** is clean.
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Duly noted and corrected Ajari. Sorry for the rant - I'm in a pissed-off mood today. I meant no disrespect to Hoffalives - personally, just the attitude that his **** is clean.
NP, TB Sorry to hear you're in a $#!ttY mood, Pun definitely intended

I do understand the frustration Hoffa expressed in his original post. It's hard to pony up with glee when we see others around us flaunting then rules with impunity.

As for the correction, I just thought it was funny chloroform/coliform. Done in by the old spell-checker ....

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To change the subject a bit... Has anyone had any experience with onboard composting toilets? I know they exist, but I haven't heard first hand of any.
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Has anyone seen what it looks like when you flush overboard?

Well from my point of view,(a diver) it looks like it is snowing during a duststorm...
There is nothing that floats so no reason to worry anout bumping in to a "baby ruth" while swimming.

Its a great way to attract fish but please don't flush/pumpout while I'm in the water!!!!
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but please don't flush/pumpout while I'm in the water!!!!
Again it comes down to personal responsibility and common sense. Laws be damned, nobody should be pumping out in any body of water where a diver or a swimmer would want to be, let alone where they are.
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We on San Juan Island live next door to Victoria/Vancouver Island, and it is an ongoing, irate source of "news" that they are dumping millions of gallons of raw sewer over there into the local waters. Other than Hoffalives, my take is that most of the population over there doesn't give a crap (sorry...), or they would do something about it. Since most people tend to ignore it and look the other way, it ain't gonna change any time soon.

Hoffa, as far as your personal moral conundrum, I once lived in a marina outside of Portland, OR (on the slow moving Multnomah Channel) where the marina manager literally told us to "do what everyone else does" and pump right into the water. Which was against I don't know how many state and local regulations. Well, we wouldn't do it. We pumped out properly, and over time made a few of our neighbors feel guilty enough to alter their pump out practices for the better.

To me, the moral of the story is change is quite often made one person at a time. My default has always been to do what is right, even if it's a pain in the ass (sorry again!).
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T B, despite the harshness of your words, and the stinky mood, I totally agree with you. What I don't understand is that Hoffalives said the city sewage system dumps untreated. It would seem to me that the provincial government and/or the Canadian government should force the city to stop that practice. In most of the U S that would happen.
BTW, Sea Monkey, the water around Manituolin Island is DRINKABLE, and since I intend to return there on Ragtime (I previously chartered there) I took out the macerator pump and installed a larger holding tank so I would not have to pump as often!
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That was priceless....thanks for the laugh.
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