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I've got a problem which is obviously not one person, because I have one boat in a slip and another one on a mooring in another city.
When I leave a boat after a day of sailing, I am very particular how I arrange the halyards and sheets. I like to do everything the same way everytime. And no, the halyards as I leave them don't bang in the wind.
However, I notice there seem to be a lot of busybodies out there who cannot resist the opportunity to rearrange things. They will take the halyard for example and wind it around here and there, snag it on the mast light, run it through the jack stays, etc. this kind of thing does not happen by itself no more than shoes lace themselves up.
Last week on the mooring someone moved one of my fenders from the port side and tied it to the front of my bow roller. I am not known to go around ramming boats .. probably someone lost control of their boat and was banging against my bow.
In my opinion these helpful people are dangerous. If I did not check to make sure nothing was tampered with, I might try to raise the mainsail halyard and find its wrapped around the forestay ( it happened once).

What should I do? put up a sign and risk retaliation by some jerk? or am I out of line?
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No, you're not out of line but putting the sign up might cause issues later. I never go aboard someone's boat unless invited or to save it from destruction. I honestly don't know what to suggest here.
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Maybe a funny sign poking fun at yourself, but getting your point across just the same ?

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If you're at a marina... you really should talk to the marina owners about someone tampering with your boat. They should have a vested interest in finding out who is doing this as well as stopping it, since they may be liable for any damage caused by it...

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I can't imagine this happening.
Ask they Harbor Master to keep an eye out and tell whoever is dicking around on YOUR boat to knock it off.

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I wouldn't put a sign up warning people off of your boat... if something WERE to happen requiring boarding of your boat to save it (sinking, coming loose, etc.) nobody would touch it. One would hope that the "changes" you are experiencing are due to issues occurring. As mentioned, you might talk to the marina managers...

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dohenyboy,

I've only had this happen once, and the slip neighbour who did it told me they'd done it, and why. It was because I had screwed up and my neighbour had stepped in to prevent possible damage to our boat.

I would humbly suggest that if this is happening to you regularly or frequently, perhaps you might consider re-examining what you're doing. Perhaps, just perhaps, what you're doing is wildly wrong, and what these mystery visitors are doing is saving your boat, and perhaps the boats of others, from damage?

Halyards slapping the mast are exceedingly annoying to some people. I have a very good friend that lives directly across the canal from where our boat was slipped last season. He remarked to me one day that something was "ringing" on our boat when the wind blew. "You don't have to worry about it, tho," he said, "because I kind of enjoy it." "That's you," I replied, "other people frequently don't feel the same way. Allowing that is regarded as inconsiderate. I'll have to fix it." And I did. I would note that, upon examination, I couldn't tell which halyard it was. They all seemed unlikely to bang in the wind. The first time I was out there when the wind had kicked-up a bit, I found it. You'd be amazed, once the wind starts blowing, the boat starts rocking, and things start flexing, etc., what will happen.

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If it is terrible halyard slapping, I confess to boarding another boat to tie it off. You will die of lack of sleep if you don't.
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I understand what you are saying, but I think the way I place my mainsail halyard is perfectly fine.
I fasten the shackle to the aluminum toe rail. The shackle is the kind that screws in; its not a snap shackle. Then I tauten the halyard and cleat it off. Its an internal halyard. There is no way that the halyard can bang against the mast this way. There is no way that my practice is a safety hazard.
Because its a wire/rope halyard, I would rather not have the halyard rubbing on the outside of my freshly painted mast. I believe that there is no safety or other reason for someone to remove the shackle from the toe rail, wind the halyard around the shroud, hook it on the mast light, and attach the shackle to the bottom of the mast. I do not believe that the wind did all of this, least of all unscrewed the shackle and then reattached it.
There are weird people out there that just want things done their way even if its on someone else's boat.
One can say that people don't rearrange stuff on other people's boats for fun. This is a generalization. There are many nutbars in our lovely world.

One time after a day's sail I did not coil my jib sheets. I just did not feel like it that day. A few days later I came by when I had more energy to coil them. Someone had already neatly done so. I cannot understand how an uncoiled line on deck could be dangerous to others. The wind is not going to pick up the sheets. This is Southern California, and we have no hurricanes. Some person with obsessive compulsive disorder happened by, that's all. Some people get one idea in their head and because its the only one idea they have ever had, they hold on to it tightly.

Where I used to have a slip, there was an old salt who, as far as I could tell, was on his little sailboat every single day. Anytime anyone came in or out of their slip, this old gentlemen would commence barking orders at the top of his lungs "give it more throttle!" "turn now!" etc. I finally had it out with him one day, explaining to him that his yelling was distracting and rude. He stopped hectoring me but kept on with others. Fortunately my application to move was soon accepted by the marina.

And there are some people who have no concern for the rights of others. I used to have a house at the city line. I had 13 acres. The land was fenced. One day I noticed a jeep parked outside the fence. I came closer and a fellow about 30 was digging up one of my plants. I asked him what he was doing. He said he wanted that plant and it was on public property, so, (with some offense in his voice) told me who was I to tell him not to take it?
I pointed out the building 50 feet away which bore an uncanny resemblence to a house. I explained that I lived in that building and in fact owned it and considered it to be my home. I also pointed out the 6 foot high structure which he had climbed over, which was comprised of metal chain link arranged in a vertical pattern. I reminded him that the sign that said "private property, no trespassing" which was on that metal chain link might indicate to him that the enclosed area was not public land. I explained to him that just as he probably lived in a house, or apartment, that the surrounding lawn and gardens pertained to where he lived, and he would not appreciate someone entering his home to remove plants. And I told him that if I ever found him on the property again I would call the police. That offended him even more. The nerve! Unfortunately, he was not the first nor the last person whom I found wandering around my yard after climbing the fence.
In summary, I am not at all surprised that one or more unknown persons wishes to rearrange my nautical equipment.
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I would have video taped him digging up the plant and leaving with it...and then called the cops.. Getting convicted for trespassing, destruction of property, and theft.... that'd teach him.

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