Boater Missing on ICW - Page 2

chucklesR · #11 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

Screw that - being dragged along alongside your boat in 39 degrees of water with 2 broken ribs and a dislocated shoulder (not unlikely when tumbling across at 45 degrees)
All that so I can drown/freeze slowly as opposed to within minutes?

You've got to make it so you can't fall off otherwise it's no good.

AboardIndigo · #12 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

Yes, I'd like to be in that situation with a chance rather than watching my boat sail quietly away 3 knots faster than I can swim...

And when you're working on a headsail at the bow of a monohull, even a 6 foot line will be too long. As I said, this is the primary purpose; of course you'd like to stay on the boat whenever possible.

I get what you're saying, and we can disagree - I apologize to the thread police in advance for hijacking.

teshannon · #13 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

Sad story with little chance of a happy ending. I agree, you need to be kept on the boat, not dragging alongside. On my boat I couldn't get back on board myself without the swim ladder down which is never when sailing.

pigslo · #14 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

The right jackline, a little effort in attachment points, double tether, lifelines and careful movement on the deck and you can greatly increase the odds to near zero that you will go over the side.
pigslo

camaraderie · #15 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

John...My impression was that with 2 kids and a wife aboard and some boat damage and NO response from the boat that hit him...he just wanted to get out of there and let the Coast Guard do its' work. Listening to the conversation, it seems he was shook up and very worried.
As of this moment the CG is still broadcasting pan-pans and the guy is still missing. Doesn't look good unfortunately.

johnhalf · #16 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

You know, I may be new to the whole captain thing, but I think that I would have felt it to be my responsibility to do a little more than motor away.
Does anyone know what the law says about this kind of thing?

pinkpussycat1031 · #17 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

John Martins is the fellow missing and is a co-worker of mine. I am having a lot of trouble finding updates on him, so I came here. Please post CG comments that are heard. I found out more about this accident in the past 3 minutes than I've been able to find since I heard about this yesterday.
Sincerely

camaraderie · #18 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

Pink...will do...no further news...just that he is presumed to have gone overboard and was wearing yellow foulies and all boaters in the area are asked to keep a sharp lookout. Will post anything new right here or you can leave your e-mail address and I will contact you.

JohnRPollard · #19 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

EDIT: I took down my earlier post questioning why the boat that reported the incident did not mount a search, and discussing safety harnesses. A fellow sailor is still missing, so I don't feel this is the appropriate time to analyze the "what went wrong" scenarios.

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Originally Posted by camaraderie

John...My impression was that with 2 kids and a wife aboard and some boat damage and NO response from the boat that hit him...he just wanted to get out of there and let the Coast Guard do its' work. Listening to the conversation, it seems he was shook up and very worried.

Cam, Somehow I missed those details and as someone who sails with a boatload of kids I can certainly understand the shock, fear and adrenaline rush that would have occurred after such a collision. I'd like to think I could collect myself and come up with a plan, but I wasn't in his shoes. Proving once again the perils of second guessing and Monday morning QB-ing.

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Originally Posted by pinkpussycat1031

John Martins is the fellow missing and is a co-worker of mine. I am having a lot of trouble finding updates on him, so I came here. Please post CG comments that are heard. I found out more about this accident in the past 3 minutes than I've been able to find since I heard about this yesterday.
Sincerely

PinkPussyCat,

As fellow sailors, our thoughts are with John Martins as well as his family and friends, and please be assured that we're all hoping for a happy outcome. Let's all try to stay positive as we wait to learn more.

pinkpussycat1031 · #20 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008

I thank you very much. my email address is pink ***** cat1031 at yahoo dot com (no spaces in the email, however, I couldn't post it on the reply).
Any information you can provide is greatly appreciated. John LOVED sailing, and always took his cat. We will keep hoping for the best.
Thank you again,
Pink