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And the other common all-stations call is "securite", pronounced in English "securitay". You'll hear cruise boats using it when they leave dock and aren't capable of fast maneuvering. I've used it in fog-bound channels.

These terms all derive from the French, by the way.
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If a crew broke his/her arm and I was single-handing in heavy air, I would issue a PAN-PAN to indicate that I had injured crew (non-critical) and to arrange via the Coast Guard/marine police to meet me at dock to get them off safely. In this case, the PAN-PAN doesn't indicate a damaged or boat-specific situation, but more like "here I come, and I might not be as fastidious about my maneuvering as per normal".

If the air was heavy enough, I'd want an escort in, where possible, or also if possible, to take on a crew from the CG or the police to help me get in quicker.

Middle of the ocean...you're probably not going to do this unless you are dead in the water and can't get underway at all. There's plenty of scope for a PAN-PAN that doesn't include "immediate or imminent threat to life".
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These terms all derive from the French, by the way.

French. Wait until Giu hears that!!!!!!! I want to read his review how they are from Portugal.

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I've had to issue a Pan-Pan (while flying) under stress before; you would be amazed how difficult it is to actually correctly call out and enunciate the "Pan-Pan Pan-Pan Pan-Pan"! It was more difficult than the old "Sally Sell Sea Shells by the Sea Shore"
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Would this be when your rudder went AWOL...
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I've had to issue a Pan-Pan (while flying) under stress before; you would be amazed how difficult it is to actually correctly call out and enunciate the "Pan-Pan Pan-Pan Pan-Pan"! It was more difficult than the old "Sally Sell Sea Shells by the Sea Shore"
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No, it wasn't - when the rudder and my ship parted ways I didn't radio anything abnormal (it wasn't a Securite, Pan-Pan or Mayday situation - I wasn't in danger and nobody listening on VHF would have been able to help).
The Pan-Pan I issued was calling in a fire I had just seen started in the high mountain of Utah north of Bryce Canyon - started by a lightning strike from a CuNim whose downdrafts had almost caused me to crash/land my glider several minutes before (my adrenaline was still pumping from that scare and my voice was all squeeky for a while). I never found out what happened, but am happy I did it. It took a while to get the information relayed to the forestry service, though. After a bit I got in contact with another plane about 30,000 feet above me, who called it in to Salt Lake City, who then called the forestry service.
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You probably should have made a Securité call when your rudder fell off. A sailboat that has no way of steering or limited ways of steering should probably warn people nearby that is the case.
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A sailboat that has no way of steering or limited ways of steering should probably warn people nearby that is the case.
Like this guy, only his rudder was fine!
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SD - I suppose I should have done that, in retrospect. But when I did finally drift over shallow enough water to drop the hook and wait things out I at least had enough presence of mind to put up my dayshape.
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Well, now you know for next time... I seriously hope there isn't a next time, but you're ready for it now.
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SD - I suppose I should have done that, in retrospect. But when I did finally drift over shallow enough water to drop the hook and wait things out I at least had enough presence of mind to put up my dayshape.
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