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Forgot to mention - I do take her to rough weather- we got long windy winter up here.
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One boat I've seen has the dinghy setup to hang nearly vertically from the stern arch, which reduces the risks of the dinghy filling with water, but doesn't look quite as nice. Also, you can't leave the dinghy motor on the dinghy.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm on a fairly beamy 32. I'm not a fan of towing and I would hate to sacrifice my fordeck. I live in the San Juans, which is where I do my sailing, Gulf Islands included. I'm building a little 3 person plywood dinghy, about 7' or so. Maybe I'll just stick with towing.

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I skippered a 102 foot ketch with the dinghy on davits off the stern. It was a big, seaworthy boat (90 tons) and the dinghy still dragged in the water and caused problems on rough days. There is almost no way to lift a dinghy high enough on the stern of a sailboat, even a really big one. Ever notice how high the boats are on ships? There is a reason for that. I would work at carrying it somewhere else. That is the great benefit of inflatables. Defate it and hoist it on deck. It kind of defeats the purpose of having an inflatable if you never deflate it. The only reason we hung the boat over the stern on the 102' boat was for rescue purposes. It was much easier to heave to and launch the boat if someone fell off rather than try and manoeuvre that monster for a recovery.

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Here's another alternative that lets you get yhe dink out of the water when it is rough.
http://www.dinghy-tow.com/index.html

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..... I'm building a little 3 person plywood dinghy, about 7' or so. Maybe I'll just stick with towing.
If you plan to tow, suggest you do not tow with the outboard on the dinghy, though with a 7' plywood one you probably wouldn't anyway. Keepin spray & rain out is a big deal when towing, esp with hard dinghies. It's a big hassle if the dinghy swamps on you.

Many may disagree, but we towed hard dinghies for years with no problems once we installed a transom drain to allow spray and rain to drain away. While underway the water will always leave the dink. Depending on the design, the drain may be underwater at rest and this requires a quick insertion of the plug once you prepare to moor or dock. But a "Sabot" style dinghy's transom is well above water when it's empty.

If you are going to go (hard dinghy) this route, I'd really recommend a Sabot-like dinghy with a sailing rig - great diversion for kids and adults alike. They can serve double duty as a tender too, and the rigs don't take up any more space than another set of oars or a spinn pole if you store it on deck.

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Unrelated and related...

I usually just towed mine and took the .5 knots penalty... that is until one day I was cruising off Bainbridge Island, and this gorgeous 42 footer pilothouse swept by - and after exchanging greetings and me drooling...the 42 footer was a good half mile away when I realized I had no more dinghty and had to turn around and fetch it...

After that - I started storing it on the foredeck face down after that (so not to trap water)... It is a bit of a challenge sometimes but used the Halyards to hoist it on board and maneuver it to the location... (I never deflated it..)...

The larger the boat you have the better the situation... But I know quite a few cruisers that use the davits - inverse the boat for hanging and are happy with it... it still beats dragging it and is alot easier to deploy versus having to go forward and do the whole winch and dance song...

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I cheat and store the dinghy on the ama deck. But most of you guys don't have that as an option.

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Hey Jim.....

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I'll chime in on davits as being a poor idea in rough weather. Delivering a 64' ketch to Antigua from St. Thomas and beating into a head sea, had the rigid dinghy work loose from the davits - in the scramble to secure it, almost had a crew fall off the transom (tethered, but still no fun.) I'm a firm believer in deflating inflatables and lashing rigids on deck. The inflating/deflating and hoisting/deploying isn't that much more time than the davit operation and IMO is sufficiently safer to warrent the time spent. I've also seen bent and broken davits - never sure whether due to collision with docks/pilings or to use or structural fatigue.

Taronga, as pictured, carries the rigid inverted and ahead of the mast on anything other than a daysail in soft conditions. The dinghy sits with its nose in a chock and is lashed with spectra webbing to padeyes. Best of luck with your choice.
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Cam- I've been interested in the Dinghy Tow for quite awhile. Saw someone with one last year and sailed alongside them for a bit. They said it was the best thing they have ever bought for their boat, would never go back to towing. It looked very stable and there must not be much drag with just the weight of the bow in the water. My only concern would be noise, not sure if it would make a racket that close or not. I wouldn't use it offshore or in heavy weather anymore than I would tow, but it looks to be a good solution to a universal problem.

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Fascinated by the dingy tow sysyem. Know anyone with it? Cost?

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