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I have been thinking of ways to cross the Atlantic & cruise the French Canals without selling my home and one crazy idea i had was to buy a boat complete my adventure and sell it in europe, hopefully for a profit. The big question is what kind of boat? Do euro's want euro boats,(swan, halbergs, waqueas, ect.) or cream of the crop US boats? (old hinckley, old mason, or classic nor'sea 27, bbc 28, flicka) Maybe a leaky teaky or an old classic racer? My theory is a weak dollar and large US inventory has to interest the Europeans. My budget would be less than $100K total. Size does not matter, smaller would be better. Thanks in advance for your helpful comments.
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Most sailboats would be lousy boats to cruise the French Canals from what I've read about them. Sailboats will have a lot of bridge clearance issues on the canals. Also, canals, due to their nature, being fairly narrow, are generally not well suited for sailboats, which would generally have to motor in the canals.

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Google "CE markings" "Recreational Craft Directive" and "VAT". You will find postings going back to 2004 on this site which will answer your questions and dash your dreams.



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Google "CE markings" "Recreational Craft Directive" and "VAT". You will find postings going back to 2004 on this site which will answer your questions and dash your dreams.
I expected a paper chase and taxes, euro's do those very well. Have boat inspected, ce stamped and pay the g-man.

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There are quite some EU boats for sale 'cheap' in the Carib as the owners have had enough and do not want to sail it back home. That is the easiest way to solve Your 'problem'. Just remember to get a deal where You keep it registred under the sellers address in EU! This will even keep You clear of problems with 'overstaying' and tax within EU.
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Haffi's idea sounds practical. However, if you get an older US boat the RCD might not apply. The VAT issue will remain. But if you solve these problems for the buyer, selling will then depend on the boat. Prices are generally higher in the Med and the UK. So try selling it there.

For the European canals, France has an air-draught limitation of about 3.5 m, so mast down, a sail boat will pass. The water depth is usually more than 1.4 m, some say 1.8 m. in the smaller canals. All the big ones have 4m or more. A lifting keel would be an asset. Although not an ideal shape for canal work sail boats can do it.

You could sail across, sell it, buy a canal suitable boat in Holland, cruise and then sell it again.

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You can have the mast stepped at each end, hen either lay along cabin top or better still get it trucked to the other end to meet you!
Depth is a REAL issue in all the main canals, drawing more that 1.5m will seriously limit where you can go.
I recomend
Watersteps Through France
Bill & Laurel Cooper


and Through the French Canals
David Jefferson


Bill and laurel have cruised these waterways for many years and their account makes good reading, Jefferson has all the info you will need.

Be aware that VAT is a very real issue, up to 20% to be paid if the boat has not got the right papers, and the French are sticklers for this!

Its a great trip and if you manage to organise it have fun!

www.gerryantics.blogspot.com
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Why would you want to do the canals in a sailboat if you have to unstep the mast for the entire voyage??? If you're going to have to motor the whole time, get a canal barge and do that instead... won't cross the ocean, but it won't have to carry a dozen jerry cans of diesel on deck to make it from one fuel dock to the next either.

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Buy a Gemini already in europe (or here and sail it there - it's been done), drop the mast (some owners have modified theirs with a mast dropping system already) and there ya go a sailboat perfect for canal cruising. They are CE cat 'A'.
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