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I will try to find it. However this one guy, in order to keep or at least delay Pirates getting into the cabin, reinforced the companionway hatch with steel guides, and had an external SS bar "hatch" made, something similar to what you see on windows, that slides down the outside. His purpose was to allow ventilation into the cabin, but feel safe at night sleeping. Kinda like this:

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Can the mooring field be covered by one or two cameras from shore. Cost could be covered by all involved. If cost is a factor, set up dummy cameras wit red LED lights on and a lot of warning signs.

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If you use one of those alarms that call when someone is attempting to break in your boat, you could have it call the marina and alert them of the situation.

Just a quick thought that came to mind.

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Sadly, anything that can hurt a criminal POS breaking and entering is probably going to leave you liable for his/her/it's injuries. Your property protection rights do not supercede that in most states.
Fortunately, on a boat you have plenty of opportunity to dispose of the perpetrator accordingly Just remember the cinder blocks.

Its not hard to break into all but the best companionway. Some friends of mine had their boat broke into on the hard in a fenced in boatyard. The thieves crowbarred off the latch, and then pried open all the lockers. They didn't realize there was a catch inside the finger hole. Again, they made off with a cheap pair of binoculars, leaving hundreds of dollars of damaged teak.. scumbags.

The better locks you use to lock your boat will only result in more damage when they finally break in. Like leaving your car in the ghetto.. broken windows cost more than some cheap CD's. Make your boat look frequently visited, or extremely run down... Alarms and lights won't do anything in a mooring field at night.
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Just remember, the real idea is not to stop them from breaking into the boat, but to make it more convenient for them to go to the next boat instead. Most thieves that break into boats to steal stuff are just opportunistic jackals without real skill or tools and looking for a quick and easy opportunity. You don't have to be impossible to break into, just tougher than the boat next to yours.

One deterrent that does work is a sticker or sign saying that the property on your boat is marked for identification purposes. Thieves want stuff they can sell without having it come back and bite them on the backside.

Anyone who is serious about breaking into an unoccupied boat isn't going to be stopped by anything you could seriously do on a boat. They'll be carrying a sawzall, bolt cutters and a crowbar.

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The article by James Baldwin about his security updates for Atom is posted on Sailnet. It's in the Cruising articles section, about the 9th page, posted 2-28-02.
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Gryzio read my mind! HAHA! Maybe have a couple of guys in HAZMAT suits hang out for a few hours before you leave! )
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Well, they weren't too bright. They kicked in the hatch boards and there was no lock! As I said at the beginning, nothing will stop a pro, I just want to discourage the petty thieves. The companion way is the only vulnerable spot on my O'Day 25. I'm thinking that lights and a loud fire alarm type buzzer in the cabin , about 100db., will send them running. I just need to figure out how to time it out, so my battery is not killed by running the alarm buzzer and lights for 6 hours. 6 minutes ought to do it. I can rig it all up, but I'll have to get a second battery. Not a bad idea as it seems all the heavy equipment tends to end up on the starboard side and she lists a little. New battery will go to port.

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TomandKarens34, sorry to hear about this.

What strikes me a bit odd is that this happened in Maine, right?
I have locked my boat when in Long Island Sound but I am do not keep it locked in it's current location on the Hudson River. Admittedly, we have little of value for anyone to steal when at mooring but I have never suffered the injustices of a break in on my boat in 5 years. One guess I have is that the teenagers in Maine are more curious and savvy about the water; at least that is what my stereotype of a nice Maine anchorage tells me and, yes, I was once a teenager too. I never vandalized anyones boat as I had my own smaller versions of sailing craft to contend with. I did lift a 75# mushroom anchor from a YC once - no more, I pay for everything since 30 years ago.
I have had my car stolen, vandalized and my parents home was robbed by people we knew. The feeling of violation is strong and justified but you also need to think about some kind of 'closure' for your mind.
There were some good suggestions made so far in this thread and you will decide what approach to take to make you feel better. The suggestion of using tacks or nails reminded me of Joshua Slocum in "Around the World Alone" but that is not really an option. I like the idea of taking your most expensive equipment with you as long as it is manageable.
I want the ability to lock my companionway hatch but I like not having to lock it as at our club someone might peek in on it if it started getting low in the water and notify us. It is going to take a pretty seriously smart boat designer to make one impervious to a professional thief.

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Hi Tom and Karen,

Sad to hear. Where in Maine in your O'day moored? Kids will kick in boards looking for booze at Willard Beach (where I am) every so often. Try leaving a bottle of whiskey in the galley sink with a note asking them to not pee on your settee cushions.

Caleb is right. Local kids and island kids have access to all kinds of water craft to glide through mooring fields at night. More things might go on in your cockpit than you know about.
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