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Your Boat

We've had threads on various types of dream boats, so I thought it would be fitting to have a thread on the present boat.

The idea here is to say what you like and what you don't like about your current boat, and if you'd choose it again. Please limit yourself to that, and put your year, make, and model in the title line.

This isn't to discuss each boat, but a simple list of various models we own, with their good and bad points to you. So please don't post if you aren't going to do that. Your co-operation in keeping this thread simple is appreciated.

I've posted my boat as a format.
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Catalina 30mkIII tall 1994

This is a great sailing boat. Handled 42 kt gusts in the 2006 100 miler on Green Bay. Great couple boat. Bunks are short. should be as long as head room.
Capt.stu up to my ass in snow.
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'84 Ontario 32

What I like:

Roomy
Good ventilation
Shoal draft
Points well
Stable
Comfortable cockpit
Easy to singlehand
Good storage
Above average tankage, for size
Good anchor locker
Fairleads at front and rear cleats
Slotte toe rail


What I don't like:

Beam pinches down to stern to far forward
Stern rail needs one more stanchion
Engine is open under cockpit (loud)
Engine is undersized
Chainplates are about 6" in from toe rail (would rather they were all the way out, or inboard.)
Single rear stay (instead of split)


Yes, I'd buy this boat again.
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77 Bristol 32 sloop
Very sturdy boat
She sails well and points very well
There is a drop keel, so it has the ability to gunkhole 3'8" draft up and 9' 5" down
Nicely single handleable
She's easy to work on, there is adequate space in engine compartment, head, and lockers
Its a head turner



The fact that the manufacterer is no longer in business makes some of
the more technical information tough to find
Ted hood did extremely well but, after market replacements ie hatches, ports etc have to be custom made w/out hull alterations
no nav station
no bimini the traveler is immediately in front of wheel

Buy this boat again in a minute
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I never gave this much thought until reading your post John and find the comparison curious as we currently have two boats, a Hylas 49 and a Hunter 40.5 (kind with the backstay) and the list is virtually identical in terms of what we like/dislike.

Both:
track and point well
easily handled by one person (usually)
large, comfortable cockpits
great engine and gen maintenance access
fast (relatively)
good storage
separate refrigerator and freezer
safe deck access

among the differences:
Hylas tracks better downwind
Hunter has slotted toe rail which quite handy at times
cramped galley of Hylas(function of CC design)
Hunter anchoring design far superior (rode storage and anchor handling)
Hunter - less wood interior - brighter; Hylas all wood interior - darker on a rainy day.

The price disparity would lead me to believe one is built to a superior standard but since they are both used for essentialy the same type sailing, albeit in different locations, I tend to like/dislike the same things regardless of which boat it is.

I'd buy either again.
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95 Beneteau 32.1 OCEANIS

Likes:

big cockpit
Good headroom below roomy
28 horsepower a plus
Mine has in-mast furling
big aft birth
Position of head Mid-ship instead of aft or forward
toe rail slotted-comes in handy
for safety reasons small swim platform easier to board god forbid
single-hands easily

Dislikes:

Had poor engine access cut out access panel port
Poor in light wind
throttle poorly located not on pedestal
miss sensation of a tiller
big in the ass can't have it all make's it comfortable though I guess it's a plus.
cleats forword position to close to stanchions

Would I buy her again? Yes even the fat girls need loving.
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83 Irwin 41 CC Ketch

Likes

The look of it
The Open and Arie cabin lay out
Queen Aft birth
Two heads ( 4 woman remember )
40 holding tanks
140 gal fuel
120 water
twin bow rollers and Anchors
center cockpit
swing keel
Fairly fast ( 8.5 )
Little exterior teak
Lots of pretty interior teak
teak & holly sole
My wife likes it..

Dislikes
poor engine and gen.access
short 2 winches ( In my opinion )
single spreaders ( Would prefer doubles )
no traveler
no bow thruster
no swing keel lock
Electrical Pannel mounted to low
It aint back in the water yet..


Woops..Edit...No regrets with purchas..would buy again

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Morgan 44 CC sloop

I like

The very comfy aft cabin and a small tub in the head.
Walk-in (almost) engine room with lots of space for more gear (water maker, genset)
High and big cockpit
Good galley with great fridge and freezer
1000 litres of water
Two heads both en suite
Easy to sail with 2 people but space enough for comfortable 6
Shallow draft for a boat this size (draws just over 5 feet)

I don't like

The smallish rig, underpowered and a little lazy, could be quite a bit taller
The slapping of wavelets under the counter when I'm trying to sleep
The cost of haul-outs and berthing
Not enough diesel (350 litres)
All the people on this forum who reckon it's not a blue water boat

Andre
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1983 Pacific Seacraft Orion 27'

Likes:
*Ton of storage for the size
*Comfy Berths with pleanty of length (I'm 6'0" and fit in with room to spare)
*Small and simple enough to singlehand easily
*Good Cabin layout (I have the C plan)
*Twin bow rollers with a CQR and a Bruce, good ground tackle
*Small, simple engine. Freshwater cooled. (2GM)
*World cruiser for alot less $ than others in her class
*She's been solo circumnavigated
*Handles nicely, stable, trackes well, heavy, SOLID.
*Cuts through the water, doesn't pound
*Low maint cost due to smaller size
*Simple electrical and plumbing systems
*Wheel steering
*Cockpit floor can be taken up for engine access, and steering quadrant access. It's held down by four screw down dogs, and is gasketed to prevent water getting in if pooped. With the floor up I can take the engine out myself using some tackle and the boom as a crane.
*All ports are bronze opening
*Teak everywhere in cabin, almost no glass visible.
*Headliner zips the full length of the interior. Insulated for winter and makes running lighting wire a breeze.
*Green hull is beautiful, head turner.

Dislikes:
*Green hull is pain in the ass to keep beautiful (wax on wax off Danielson)
*Not enough room between mast and dodger to lash down a hard dink, have to go with an inflatable or remove dodger
*Galley sink is far enough outboard to take in some water when heeled past 25 or 30 degrees
*Hobbyhorses some in chop
*A fair amount of exterior wood that requires maint, including a wooden bowsprit.
*Built with a pan, makes running new wire and plumbing a hassle.
*Brand name makes people initially think I'm some Yachty type. I quickly put that to rest by chugging a beer and swearing in front of your grandma

I love my boat and would buy her again without question.
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2007 Gemini 105Mc Catamaran

The most wonderful thing is it's a catamaran, comfortable flat sailing that my wife and friends enjoy because we are not heeled over bashing through waves and have the room of a 40 ft with only 34 ft of length, the draft of a dinghy and a width that fits our old slip.

Better than any of that - I can afford it now and sail it now instead of waiting 15 years to make a down payment on a bigger catamaran that I'd have to hang on a mooring ball.

Best of all; passing 40 ft production boats with reefed sails while my air conditioner keeps my wife cool as she sleeps on the REAL queen sized bed up forward.
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