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millyman01 03-04-2008 07:29 PM

Made it back alive!
 
Took my mac 22 and a how to sail book to the Fla keys. Sailed from Key Largo to almost Key West. A couple questions. I thought putting an anchor down at the front of the boat would point the nose into the wind. My boat seems to stay sideways and drag the anchor? Also on a day that was pretty windy I was nervous about putting the main up. Wasn't sure if the boat would tip over or not. But I just couldn't seem to reef the main shorter with the wind going. It would make the loose sail flap too hard. Ended up blown onto an island. The natives loved it. Tried the jib alone because if the boat tipped I could just let go of the rope but with just the jib I could't sail into the wind? And it also flapped so hard it ripped. Advice please!

uspirate 03-04-2008 07:37 PM

Depending on how comfortable you are with your mac, get used to the heel. macs heel fast and steep. your boat will not tip over (it may be knocked down) it will self right if the keel comes out of water enough. i learned all this stuff 18 years ago when my second boat was a mac 25 now my fifth boat is a mac 25 go figure. they sail quite well and are fairly fast sailers for what they are but only with both sails up. just remember to keep one hand on the mainsheet and when in doubt let it out!
Happy sails!
BJ

Perithead 03-04-2008 07:44 PM

Well, my last boat was a mac 25 and I enjoyed it.

About your anchor dragging, how deep was the water your were dragging in?
Do you have any chain attached to your anchor?
How much rode (rope) did you have out for the anchor?
What type and size anchor do you have?

camaraderie 03-04-2008 07:48 PM

If it is windy...tie the reef in the main before you leave the dock or pick up the hook. It is easier to take a reef out...than to put it in.

You will not always lay straight down wind of your anchor...especially in areas with tidal and current flow. Nevertheless,,,you should get your anchor to set easily and it should not drag. What type and size anchor are you using and how much chain is on it and how much line were you letting out in what depth water?

Congrats on making it back...it keeps getting better! :D

sailingdog 03-04-2008 07:53 PM

A lot of modern boats won't sit head to wind on an anchor all that well due to the difference caused by modern boat design. Don Jordan has an article on the problem on his website.

What kind of anchor did you have? What kind of anchor rode did you have? How much scope did you have out? What kind of bottom was it?? All of these will affect whether you're likely to drag or not.

I generally recommend you get a larger than normal anchor, and of a design that will not pull free if the boat swings 180˚. The best designs are the next generation designs, like the Rocna, Manson Supreme, Spade, and Buegel. I have the Rocna on my boat. I also recommend you have at least a boat length of chain on the anchor, unless the anchor specifically say not to do this. Some of the fluke design anchors, like the Fortress, will have problems setting properly if you have more than about 6-12' of chain.

tdw 03-04-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by millyman01 (Post 276651)
Took my mac 22 and a how to sail book to the Fla keys. Sailed from Key Largo to almost Key West. A couple questions. I thought putting an anchor down at the front of the boat would point the nose into the wind. My boat seems to stay sideways and drag the anchor? Also on a day that was pretty windy I was nervous about putting the main up. Wasn't sure if the boat would tip over or not. But I just couldn't seem to reef the main shorter with the wind going. It would make the loose sail flap too hard. Ended up blown onto an island. The natives loved it. Tried the jib alone because if the boat tipped I could just let go of the rope but with just the jib I could't sail into the wind? And it also flapped so hard it ripped. Advice please!

What ? I'm presuming that is just poorly worded. If I get your drift (no pun intended) you are either not letting out enough scope or your anchor is way undersized. As a general rule if you have an all chain rode then you need a minimum of three times the depth of the water at high tide. If part chain part rope then you are up to probably five times the depth, maybe more. If all rope then get yourself some chain. Mac is a pretty lightweight boat so part chain part rope should suffice I guess but I prefer all chain up to a couple of hundred feet then rope if needs be. That means carrying 40 odd metres of chain which on a Mac may be too much of a weight penalty but I'd reckon ten metres of chain would get you by.


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