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mltiggr 05-15-2002 06:23 AM

Transporting Paint
 
Looking for someone going across the Atlantic who would be willing to carry a few cans of acrylic boat paint. Ultimate destination is England, but anywhere in Europe will do. Shipping is just ridiculous!

MaryBeth 05-21-2002 09:20 PM

Transporting Paint
 

You are asking a very simple, perhaps to you, thing, but a very dangerous thing. Transporting hazardous material has a cost for a reason, dearie. How can you ask someone in, maybe, a 45 footer to have such a substance aboard? Are you willing to pay for the insurance? Of course not, if so, you would be able to afford the cost for hazmat shipping. Do you understand the cost if, perhaps, a spark were to be let loose from the alternator connection? The boat would no doubt go down, the flames fueled by the paint, but how would you deal with the loss of the souls aboard? How can you ask anything like this? I find it hard to believe you can find no paint in England, sorry.

Don''t be a wanker,
MaryBeth

DuaneIsing 05-22-2002 04:05 AM

Transporting Paint
 
Mary Beth,

I have enjoyed most of your many posts over the past few weeks, but I''m having a hard time understanding how a few gallons of paint in sealed containers poses an appreciable added risk over the many other flammability risks onboard a cruising boat. Please explain.

In case it''s not clear, this is a serious question, not a poke at your knowledge.

Duane

MaryBeth 05-24-2002 05:41 PM

Transporting Paint
 

No problem at all.

Paint is considered a hazmat for a reason. It is extremely flammable. It should be considered a great risk on a vessel having propane as their only cooking fuel. Even though it is in a closed container, so are the containers of diesel needed for such a voyage, which are not nearly so flammable, I know. Your answer is, for me, I would not ever ask my friends to transport something so dangerous. I know of the costs to transport, but it would pale in comparison to my friends'' lives. While you may be able to repair a loose alternator connection before it sets the propane alight, who is to say if you miss by a few hours and the boat does blow up. (If not for a small bird dying on one of my voyages, we would never have known of a propane leak, and, upon later inspection of the engine, we might have blown up that very day - in the middle of nowhere.) A propane explosion may be escaped by those who can get the liferaft adrift before the sinking, but there would be that much more fire and brimstone before the boat goes if there were paint aboard. I guess that what I am saying is that if friends were aboard, my wish would be to wish the least amount of explosives aboard. The absence of paint allows for an extra step into the liferaft, I guess.

Many thanks for your polite questioning, tho. I don''t have all the knowledge in the world, needless to say, but I have been around. I do have a friend who sank and spent 13 days at sea before they started putting latches on the cockpit lockers of a certain boat. To me, anything that is safer is better.

If you can find a transport for your paint, bless you. I just wouldn''t ask anyone I knew to do it.

Thanks Duane,
MaryBeth

ndsailor 05-25-2002 12:36 AM

Transporting Paint
 
All paints are not registered as hazmat due to there flamability. I use an ablative waterbased bottom paint which is shipped as hazmat due to its copper content. I know of many cruisers that carry paint on board all the time....

DuaneIsing 05-26-2002 03:26 AM

Transporting Paint
 
MaryBeth,

Thanks for your reply and explanation. Just to keep the record straight, it was not I who wants to have paint transported. I was merely questioning your first response to the person who did.

Thanks again.

Duane

kimberlite 05-26-2002 07:43 AM

Transporting Paint
 
I AM SHIPPING SOME HAZARDOUS MATERIAL TO FRANCEVIA OCEAN FREIGHT, A LIFE RAFT AND FLARES.
IF YOU LIKE I WILL INCLUDE YOUR PAINT IN THE SHIPPMENT. WHAT TYPE OF PAINT HAS TO BE SHIPPED TO ENGLAND THAT YOU CAN''T GET OVER THERE?
ERIC

mltiggr 07-11-2002 06:09 AM

Transporting Paint
 
Kimberlite, Thanks for your kind reply. I never checked back to this board, so I am late in posting and you have probably already shipped. If so, thanks anyway. If not, let me know.

For the record, Mary Beth, I have met so many polite, courteous cruising sailors over the years, but I guess my luck had to run out sometime - wanker?!

thomasstone 07-11-2002 05:54 PM

Transporting Paint
 
Wow! I always have paint onboard. Next time I have people aboard I will let them know I am putting their lifes at risk.Thanks for the info-thomas


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