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We use this one, The Boater's Log Book and Journal pictured in the link. Hardcover bound, about 1/2 in thick, and sells for $15.

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It has a fuel log, radio log, maintenance log, equipment listing and I think 88 pages for passages. It's an informal format, with entry lines for start/destination, engine hours/rpm, distance traveled, weather observations/forecast and a half page section for comments etc. There is also some basic first aid/safety info as well.

We routinely log all trips, keeping track of days out, overnights out, and each book lasts about a year. In fact we even log it down if we checked the boat and ran the engine for a time over the winter season.

The active one is aboard, the others kept at home for a historical record and occasional review

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I spent 10 years from 1972 to 1982 sailing the world. I used spiral college lined notebooks for everything. I still have the one I used for my last trip. They are cheap, they last as long as they are kept in the nav area. Every watch had to record all the particulars of their watch and every morning we had a ceremony to update the the LOP on the chart. I am planning my next journey and their will be a spiral notebook on the nav table to be sure.
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I am planning my next journey and their will be a spiral notebook on the nav table to be sure.
I still think the old black & white copy books are better, because they are bound.

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I like Laboratory notebooks for logs. They're hard cover, good paper, and hard-bound, which makes them excellent for legal purposes. The better ones are acid-free paper, printed on water-resistant paper with permanent inks and will lie flat on the table top. They're not exactly cheap, being about $37 per book, which has 150 pages.


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Log Books are great!

You're not old fashioned, you're just smart.
I was given a log book as a welcome present when I bought my 1964 alberg almost 10 years ago, and am still using it. I don't fill out every outing but many esp if they are memorable, high winds, or neat places. I keep this log on the boat. we use it to recall great trips as well as a reference source for where to go, where the sandbars are, etc.

I keep a separate maintenance log for the boat and engine in a folder with all the maintenance details such as which fuel/water filter, fuel filter etc.
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I use a simple spiral bound book from Staples. I take a picture of the crew on a daysail or a cruise with my cheapo Polaroid camera. Been sailing since 1967 and am glad I can remember the faces of people who have been on the boat via the pics.

A separate book is for all the other "stuff". . .

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3 ring binder with separate sections for:
fuel, maintenance, inventory and ship's log along with sections for clearing customs and other reference material that I'm always looking up.

It's a great reference when returning to an anchorage ten years later to look up notes, to see how long it took us to make a particular run in the past as well as memorializing great memories.

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A three-ring binder isn't a legally useful document if you get into a problem, since the pages can be added and removed with no way to detect the alteration. Makes sense for the Maintenance and inventory sections, but not for the Ship's Log.

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I'm sort of like Chuckles on logs. All my maintenance and equipment records are kept on a spreadsheet saved on a memory stick. And I record every cent and every event no matter how apparently insignificant. It's surprising how often this has helped with warranty issues.

I use an Adlard Coles logbook for trip info but only record details on a trip of some importance. Sailing around my local waters doesn't get recorded even if it's overnight or two or three days. I have thus used the same log book for 8 years and on three different boats. I also record my sailing details on other boats if it's significant because that keeps an on-going record of my sea miles and adds to the "data base" of experiences.

I only check engine hours when I fuel up so that I can log the fuel consumption. I service on 100 hours so I keep half an eye on that but I find no value in recording the engine hours on every sail.

We have a visitors book for genuine visitors (not friends coming down for a day-sail) to record their impressions of their time on board.

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A three-ring binder isn't a legally useful document if you get into a problem, since the pages can be added and removed with no way to detect the alteration. Makes sense for the Maintenance and inventory sections, but not for the Ship's Log.
I doubt that ship logs for a non-commercial vessel have any bearing in a lawsuit other than it is a documented evidence. A dairy doesn't have to be a bound book, a three ring binder is still a binded document....A binded notebook / log book doesn't have to have page numbers on it, in the end it is what happened and what was recalled - which is why for a recreational sailor it doesn't matter if the log is electronic or on separate 9X5 index cards...or pages in a 3 ring Binder..the mere fact that events can be recalled - the writing down is a bonus and allows one to state this is what I recorded at such and such a time (notebook, napkin, written on your forearm...etc)

Commercially and on military ships - it is different (they have SOPs)... and maybe in a court of law - if one was to get there... it would be recommended but not a judiciary requirement... evidence and recollection in whatever documented form is usually acceptable...besides if a ship goes under - and the log books with... seems a minor point when all said and done...

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