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Buntline hitches are great, but they are close to impossible to untie if they've been in for any extended period of time. They're excellent for tying halyards to shackles.

The stopper knot is better than the figure eight, since it is far less likely to be kicked or worked out of the tail end of a line.

Properly coiling and frapping a line is also important... so that they will run free when released and not hockle or kink.
That is the point of a Buntline hitch. Similarily Stoppers are harder to remove than Figure eights.

What is Frapping a line? I've heard of frapping an awning or tarp but not a line.

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Frap. To bind tightly by passing ropes around. The act of crossing and drawing together the parts of a tackle or other combination of ropes to increase tension. de Kerchove's Maritime Dictionary

The only place I've heard the expression used is regarding the frapping lines that bring the lifeboat falls more closely alongside for boarding. I suppose it could be used for round turns around a coil of line, I've just never heard it used that way myself.

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We always frapped the flight deck awnings to stop them lifting in the wind. I have not heard it used in conjunction with coiling a line.

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Frapping a coil of line is usually done to store it...

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Frapping - isn't that the technique to brew a frappuccino?

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Frapping - isn't that the technique to brew a frappuccino?
Frap is what they use to call a milk shack in eastern Massachusetts.

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Right on Denby - Acording to Wikipedia: Frappe. Typically in the New England states and some other eastern states prior to the the mid-1960's, restaurants and other food service providers gave you a choice of a "milkshake" or a "frappe". The "milkshake" was just that, milk whipped with a flavoring syrup such as chocolate, strawberry, coffee, or vanilla. The "frappe" had the same base, but was thickened with scoops of ice cream
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Right on Denby - Acording to Wikipedia: Frappe. Typically in the New England states and some other eastern states prior to the the mid-1960's, restaurants and other food service providers gave you a choice of a "milkshake" or a "frappe". The "milkshake" was just that, milk whipped with a flavoring syrup such as chocolate, strawberry, coffee, or vanilla. The "frappe" had the same base, but was thickened with scoops of ice cream
In the early 60's when I would ask for a frappe in Connecticut they had no idea what I was asking for. Being from eastern Mass and very young I was just as confused.

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Being from NJ, I have never heard of a frappe. I know of milkshakes that always had ice cream and malted milks, which were a milkshake with malt added.

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If you have a chance and are in Newport... go by the Newport Creamery, which is an ice cream parlor/restaurant, much like Friendly's or Brigham's, and ask for an Awful Awful. It's a huge frappe.

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