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It generally doesn't make sense to get "creative" when trying to tie a knot. Using a known knot means that you'll have repeatable results and fairly consistent performance from the knot. If you're being creative, sometimes it holds, sometimes it doesn't...

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Larks head is a good knot for genny sheets if you've got one really long sheet to use for both port and starboard.
That's exactly what I'm considering for my furling jib.
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Just be aware that you won't be able to "end-for-end" the combined sheet, and that may mean you'll be replacing them a bit sooner. Also, if you damage the line, you'll have to either go to separate sheets again or replace the whole thing.
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That's exactly what I'm considering for my furling jib.
The lark's head is also prone to slipping. It is okay on a small boat but not on anything that will load up the sheets.

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Actual experience has shown that a larkshead won't generally slip if it is tied in a genoa sheet that is 100' long. The weight of the sheet is enough to prevent it from slipping.
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The lark's head is also prone to slipping. It is okay on a small boat but not on anything that will load up the sheets.

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So what's wrong with shackles instead of larks heads or bowlines. The obvious objection to 1/4 metal objects flying around aside ( a dip in liquid rubber, and not being forward during flailing periods fixes that) isn't that actually better, a slimmer 'connection' to the clew so it gets hung up on the shrouds during a tack etc..
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My last boat had an inner forestay that always hung-up the Genoa sheet bowline knots. The larkshead on a continuous sheet is ideal in this situation. I would suspect shackles to be even worse than a pair of bowlines however.

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Umm...if you ever have to go forward and try and tame a flogging genny...you'll regret having a shackle on the clew. That turns it from an annoyance which leaves bruises to a deadly weapon that can crack your skull open.

The Larkshead doesn't really present anything to hang up on the shrouds, but requires you to have one long sheet. If you switch headsails, the larkshead is a lot more of a PITA than two bowlines.

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So what's wrong with shackles instead of larks heads or bowlines. The obvious objection to 1/4 metal objects flying around aside ( a dip in liquid rubber, and not being forward during flailing periods fixes that) isn't that actually better, a slimmer 'connection' to the clew so it gets hung up on the shrouds during a tack etc..

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