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I've never liked powerboats much... My family didn't do much boating, but through friends and such, I got a lot of time in on canoes, jon boats and sailing dinghies. Always liked the fact that sailing is a thinking man's mode of transport. There's also a serenity to ghosting along in 5-10 knots of wind, not making a sound except the water passing by the hull. The excitement of a sailboat in 25 knots of wind is also really tough to beat.

Also, I really see no need to pollute if you can use the wind to your advantage. I was up at the Maine Boat Builder's show this past weekend and started to laugh when I saw a sign that said 11 GPH @ 26 knots. I didn't burn 11 gallons all season last year.

This summer, I wouldn't be surprised if diesel hits $5.00/gallon or more.
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I've never owned a power boat, but have enjoyed them. They're fun, but there's no challenge, and just to get from point A to B, you need A LOT of money for gas.

However, sailing can be extremely slow, 1-2 kt wind isn't a fun time. That is the only time when I find myself watching the power boats zip by. But it wasn't worth the noise and smell for me.

I used to row competitively a few years ago, and sailing gives me the same satisfaction moving through the water, with out all the work of rowing. Sailing is easy compared to rowing.
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Sailing is easy compared to rowing.
That's why after growing up on my parents canoe, and later paddleing my own, I converted it to my first sailboat..... and it's been sailboat after sailboat from then on. As I said to the Catalina lists when I left - "I'm moving to the Grey Side" with a Motor Sailor, but I would never even consider owning a power boat. I'd just take the ferry or just not bother to go.
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Power boats - when the destination is all important.
Sail boats - when the journey is more important than the destination.
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Guess I'm not a sailing "elitist" - or snob as others refer them as. Even though I hung with the Newport sailing crowd most of my life, I have owned powerboats AND sailboats alike. In fact, looks like my wife and I may soon be bi-boaters, owners of both at the same time -due to both desire and function.

I find it interesting that many of my friends and clients who sail - also share this outlook. In fact, a professional America's Cup and Volvo Challenge sailing client/friend, owns a center console PB. Why? Because he says using a sailboat for fishing, and shagging around the Bay islands with friends makes more sense on a powerboat.

Get the mast out of your butts sailors (g).
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Sailing is better than Powerboating.

Powerboating is boring. It is just "driving around" and more about the destination than the trip, whereas just being under sail makes the whole trip worth while.
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We had litte PBs and sailboats growing up and at some point you just get tired getting your brains beat out in the powerboat. Regardless of the size, power boats always seem to be at odds with nature..where a sailboat just feels "right" as it moves through the water.

Powerboating is a destination driven activity, wether it be a fishing ground or a port of call. The rest is a loud, tiring bore with little to no communication. Sailboating, IMHO, is not so much about the destination as it is the act of geting there. There is so much to enjoy in between stops.
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You're preaching to the choir jzk and Alden68 - everyone who sails knows this (it's a sailing forum for cripes sake (g). Many choose to just have one or the other - "can't be both". My challenging question is - why not?

Neither choice is perfect and boats that have been designed to do both (my former boat) can't excel at either. The point of having both a M/V and a S/V, is to use whichever one is best suited for the current need.

Want to sail around all day or weekend, without heading back to dock? Take the sailboat. Have a group of friends who want to get out to the early morning fishing site, or weave around the reefs for some scuba diving? Take the powerboat.

How about when the wind is dead calm, and will be all day? Do you motor around in your sailboat - just because you are "smarter-looking" than powerboaters who are getting there sooner?

Point is, if you have the means to have both - what is preventing you from doing so . . . your ego or tainting the sailor image? Horrors, what will the guys at the club think, if you pulled up in a powerboat? Lighten up guys.
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I think of our 28' commercial crab boat as our pick up truck, utilitarian. We use it for transportation to and from the island/sailboat, 12NM each way. We use it for shrimping, crabbing, running errands and taking friends whale watching when time is short (30NM+ round trip). It burns about 6-7 gph of diesel at 18-20 knots, so we have cut most non-essential use out. I love the boat, but then I love most boats if they have good lines and look seaworthy. I grew up running aluminum skiffs and then Dad bought a sail boat when I was in high school, I've owned several sail boats since then from 8' sailing dinghys to our present 40' PH. We are planning to spend 3-5 months cruising in our Brewer as soon as I sell the business. I wouldn't want to be without either boat in our present situation. Several people here have commented on how power boating is all about the destination, and maybe that is more true of power than sail, but I see an awful lot of sailboats motoring when there is a good wind too. I really think it's funny to see both sides, when I am in the power boat and slow down or turn to avoid waking a sailboat and give them a wave I rarely get a reply. When in the sailboat and go by a power boat, I rarely get a reply. Snobbish behavior isn't limited to one "side" or the other.

Actually, I would like to be without a car and only rely on water transportation if it was possible at some point.

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Well TruBlue most people aren't rich like you are. I was just asking a question because this is a forum and this is what you do! If there is no wind u stay on your boat and drink and listen to Jimmy! If your boat can do Light Air sailing then you go out. If you have a Fat Hog then you stay and drink!
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