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buckmanriver 03-31-2008 10:54 AM

Hobie Cat 16 Good For Island Hoping in baja?
 
This a definitely a noob to sailing question.

But i would like to so some sailing in the sea of Cortez's. After looking at google earth the idea of sailing from island to island looks amazing.
I would like to start in Mulege thats in Baja in December and work may way from Isla San Marcos to Isla Toruga to Isla San Pedro Nolasco and finaly to Guaymas on the west cost of the sea of cortez.

Is is possible for a boat as small as a Hobie Cat 16 to make a trip like this? Or is a bigger boat needed. Keep in mind that i am 20 years old (young and crazy) and an adventure like this sounds amazing.

I have also herd of people sea kayaking to some of these islands if a sea kayak can do it why cant a Hobie cat?

cjmcfall 03-31-2008 11:44 AM

If properly prepared for any "adventure" can be done safely.

The Polar Passage Expedition

This is a link to a story of a Hobie 18 sailing the northwest passage. Worth a read.

chucklesR 03-31-2008 12:43 PM

I think Darwin has already done some work nearby in the Galapos islands, you might want to check on the theories he came up with and the awards named after him. No judgement intended.

Short answer, yes - you could do it.
Wrong question tho. Question is should you do it.

Those sea kayaks are much better built for the load (supplies) and conditions. Hobies are not.
If you do, have fun and stay (realitively) safe.

bestfriend 03-31-2008 12:48 PM

The Sea of Cortez has the right conditions for a Hobie 16, and I used to sail mine there all the time. But, those islands are pretty far apart and a long way out, depending on which one you are looking at. I have been diving around several of them and its a good two hour powerboat ride, IIRC.

US27inKS 03-31-2008 12:57 PM

I think the issue is going to boil down to where are you going to store your food and shelter? The storage capacity of my old Hobie 16 was a pocket big enough to put a laminated registration card.

wakked1 03-31-2008 07:54 PM

Hobie 18 would be more comfortable/stable with significantly better load carrying capacity. 16' was marginal on Lake Michigan but 18' was great.

buckmanriver 03-31-2008 08:17 PM

food and shelter would not be a big problem.
food and small tarp would be stored in a 1 big dry bag.
Water would be stored a few 1 gallon Arizona tea jugs.

I have used this set up for extended kayak trips, motorcycle trips, mountaineering trips ect.

my biggest fear would be to safely maintain control of the boat in the event of a big storm.
Would bad weather be a problem during late December early January?

Alden68 03-31-2008 10:13 PM

Discovery has a show titled "I shouldn't be Alive."

They have an episode about 2 guys who tried to sail the length of the sea of cortez in a Hobie.

You should watch it....

davidpm 03-31-2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckmanriver (Post 292775)

my biggest fear would be to safely maintain control of the boat in the event of a big storm.
Would bad weather be a problem during late December early January?

I'm not familier with the area you are planning on sailing in but last summer my son about 22 years old very fit and a 10 year experienced sailor and current marine mechanic decided to sail with my friend and me from Connecticut to Long Island. We were in a 27' sailboat he took the Hobie 16'.

The wind picked up and we found out a few things about the Hobie 16.
1. With wind about 30knots+ and waves about 6 feet which was just perfect for the 27 Catalina the Hobie would not go to windward. So you may not be able to sail in the direction you want to go.
2. He is about 140lbs and just staying on the boat was a major effort. Actually sailing was practially impossible.
3. He lost a boat hook. Keeping things on deck is not as easy as it seems.
4. He ripped a jib track off the hull. The hobie is not built to handle that kind of strain.

If the wind picks up even a little your need full attention to keep the boat upright. Your weight, in the right place second by second is the trick. One misjudgement by one second and the boat is overturned and you are in the water. Righting the Hobie in calm conditions is fun. In rough conditions probably not possible.
Don't forget that even if you drop your sails you have a trampoline that will act like a sail but its only goal will be to flip you.
In short in good conditions anything that floats will get you to where you want to go.
So you have to weigh the risk. The intent of the Hobie is to have fun on the water. It has practically no ability to protect you from the elements. Dumping a Hobie or falling off it is part of it's fun. If you can swim to where you want to go the Hobie will increase the fun. If you dump or fall off and you cann't swim to land or be picked up by another boat you will be in the water untill someone finds you.

buckmanriver 03-31-2008 11:18 PM

After watching the episode on you tube epsoide i still am still excited for this adventure.
Although i might bring a sat phone.

on a smiler note i thought the pontoon of a hobie cat was filled with foam to add boucey and support to the fiberglass fram.
That is what cause the troubles if the first place which just grew from there as the often do.

search 5of5 Shipwrecked-I shouldn't be Alive in you tube to find the video


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