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Giulietta 03-31-2008 05:03 PM

What am I missing?? Is it the crisis???
 
What the hell...

Look what's for sale now....first the Maltese Falcon, then Mirabella...

HERE

Are these guys all losing their shirts???? aren't they satisfied with they have?? Want more?? what the hell....so much famine in the world....

what am I missing??

T34C 03-31-2008 05:08 PM

Sorry G-. I jsut got tired of having to buy all those red jackets for the crew. How many red jackets can a guy be expected to buy every year? It is time to down size to my other boat. I do like red you you know.

FarCry 03-31-2008 05:20 PM

There was an enormous S/Y in the harbor in St Thomas called the Mirabella a few weeks ago. I don't recall it having a white hull however. It looks like the one for sale is the Mirabella V. I need to take my camera over to Crown Bay and take some photos to post here of some of the larger S/Y.

Stillraining 03-31-2008 05:52 PM

I cant seem to locate a picture of that pretty twin wheel 3.000.000 blue job you would buy...:p

But I know what you mean...

Giulietta 03-31-2008 05:57 PM

And that my friend is probably the best looking sailboat ever made...

You are refering to THIS

The price just dropped $100.000 see here...and the other one that was here last week was sold already

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...c2/Artemis.jpg

bobmcgov 03-31-2008 05:57 PM

At a guess, I'd hazard these guys were never really sailors at heart. The boats they commissioned were monuments to their own egos, something complicated and tangible to spend money on, markers in the pissing contests the rich have always engaged in. Palaces and pyramids. Perhaps at a deeper and more charitable level, they see a sailboat as objects of liberation and calm, something to might balance the frenetic,cut-throat, greed-driven pace of their business lives. "Just get me out of this boardroom and onto a sailboat, kicked back listening to Jimmy Buffet and drinking milk outta coconuts."

Of course they get it all wrong, falling straight back into their Type A habits. Gonna go for a sail? Then by God build me the biggest, gaudiest, most high-tech and expensive mega-sailboat ever! I want swimming pools. Tennis courts. A minisub. Two. A crew of hundreds.

Then it turns out to be expensive to own, not very much fun, hardly relaxing at all. The very rich have short attention spans and are never satisfied. So it's on to the next monument. What about the giant sailboat, sir? "Sell it. I'm on to the next pissing contest." Not sure they ever really understand, It's Not About the Boat.

There are some big, splendid, expensive sailboats represented on this forum. But the difference between their owners and, say Tom Perkins? I bet if all they could afford was a 25' Catalina circa 1985 ... they would still sail the hell out of it. Not to impress anyone, not to salve something missing in their life, but out of sheer love for the wind and water. They are sailors. Joe Vittoria's just a guy who made a bucket of money renting out cars and wants everyone to know it.

Giulietta 03-31-2008 06:03 PM

Bob....agree....that hit the spot....thanks

marty9876 03-31-2008 06:04 PM

Hopefully they are building the next best thing!

speciald 03-31-2008 07:02 PM

My wife said no to the Falcon. I'll try Mirabella 5 next. Seriously. I've heard than Perini Navi has a new project to replace the Falcon.

artbyjody 03-31-2008 07:06 PM

Bob,

1/2 the analogy is 100% on point. The other half is, when you have that kind of money - those monstrosities are tax right-off(s). Most of those mega yachts are owned by businesses and not the actual individual (or in some kind of business partnership). They are usually chartered, or sailed around as means for conducting business, etc...

The good points on the process is that it really pushes the R&D aspects of design.

However, having to personally know a mega yacht owner ... its a toy and what else do you do with the crapola of money one makes, one has to spend it somewhere. They use it for a expected adventure and off they go (but the tax right off is a huge incentive in doing so)... they know they sell at a loss but its part of the rites of passage of being able to say you can do it, 2 years later - dump it on the market... most spend more on the crew to upkeep and staff the yacht than they almost do the payments of such....


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