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I leave mine in the winch, because my beer is in the handle pocket and the empties are in the cubby under the winch.

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I leave mine in the winch, because my beer is in the handle pocket and the empties are in the cubby under the winch.
I'll nominate as the BEST reason to do so... cruise on!

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I leave mine in the winch, because my beer is in the handle pocket and the empties are in the cubby under the winch.
FINALLY, a voice of reason.

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As a newly trained sailor - basic keelboat, basic cruising and bareboat classes in 4th quarter last year - I was trained to take the winch handles out. However, the first time I raced with my BK instructor, he left the leeward winch handle in the winch to trim the jib in moderate/shifty winds.

When I pointed out the conflict in my brain, he told me there was a difference between sailing and racing. We had the same conversation about sailing by the lee a few weeks later.

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...When I pointed out the conflict in my brain, he told me there was a difference between sailing and racing. We had the same conversation about sailing by the lee a few weeks later.
Exactly! When there's a conflict between good seamanship and racing, seamanship often yields. A racer might carry too much sail area because he doesn't want to take the time necessary to change sails, even though reducing sail area would normally be the seamanlike thing to do. He might sail by the lee for a short time, because he wants to get the boat into a patch of stronger wind. Racers do all sorts of things that they would not think of doing while cruising. They can get away with doing some of those things, because, unlike cruisers, who are often more casual, they're intensely focussed on what they're doing, and they usually have skilled crew to help them sail the boat. That's not to say that racing sailors are reckless. The most skilled, careful sailors I know are racers, but, like NASCAR drivers, or racehorse jockeys, they are often willing to take calculated risks, and they have the skill to get away with it (usually ).
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There is an old saying: "Racing parts are expendable." If you are going to race, you are going to break things. When racing the goal is to go fast and win, not preserve the gear/rig for eternity.

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Funny, I always wondered what those long plastic winch handle pockets were until someone told me, then I wondered what for and where would I mount it because I was running rather short of bulkhead space to mount anything further.
I always practiced what TB & Dog did, soon as I finished a tack, move it over to the windward winch in readiness for the next tack. It locks in place and floats if it goes over, though I doubt if I'd find it again if it did. It is not in the way and now that I have almost everything in place for singlehanded sailing I have less reason to go forward. I still have my metal non-floating handle below and even over the few years I used it, never lost it. Once the sails are down though it and everything else I don't need goes below or into a nylon suitcase that travels with me to and from the marina.
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I also do not use the tailing features of my winches too often as I generally cleat off for the most part...
Jody that's like owning a Lexus but taking your horse and buggy on the long road trip???? ST's are the BOMB!!!!

P.S. Cleating off takes more time to do and undo than removing a winch handle to let the sheet go.. That being said, I always remove mine unless I'm single handing and in a "tweaking mood"...

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I have four wench ...I mean winch handles, but usually only use two. I generally leave one in the leeward side, and the other is in its pocket. When we tack the one in the winch comes out and into the pocket, and the one in the pocket comes out and into the new leeward winch.
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I think its a good idea to keep winch handles off when not in use. I have locking winch handles and still keep them in their pocket when not in use. I also have a spare just in case this one goes overboard.
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