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It depends on how much sail he had up. Can't tell from the photos if the boat was reefed or not, but if he was sailing close hauled in 25 knots of wind and heavy seas, yes, it might be enough to capsize the boat if he had too much sail up....especially if the boat was on autopilot and the autopilot made a course correction at the wrong moment.
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GRRR... You're on thin ice leadmine boy.

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where are those 20kt numbers coming from? Here is the line from buoy data off shore at Delaware bay:
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2008 05 09 05 50 160 5.0 6.0 1.0 7 4.6 MM 1007.6 15.2 13.6 14.8 MM -1.6 MM
this is about the strongest wind was on that day. 5 m/s with gusts up to 6 m/s. for those used to knots this means 9-11kts And wave heights of 1 meter (that's 3 feet for metrically challenged).
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See my post #19 above. The line you cited is for 05h 50m UTC or about 1:50AM on the 9th. In the data around the time of the capsize, you'll see that the winds were as high as 10.8 m/sec or about 22 knots.

These things are damnably hard to read, eh?

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Well, my mistake
However, at the time of capsize (6pm or so, presumably) it is still not too bad:
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2008 05 09 17 50 190 6.0 7.0 1.4 7 4.8 MM 997.5 15.8 13.8 15.5 MM -2.6 MM
13 kts gust. 4-5 ft waves.

The first time it registers 10m/s is at 10pm on Friday, by which time, presumably, this had already happened. This is from an offshore buoy.

Buoys closer to shore like this: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/realtime2/AVAN4.txt and http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/realtime2/CMAN4.txt have nothing even close to that.

I suppose it could have been a very localized thunderstorm or some such. Strange nevertheless.
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The weather was a little on the cool side for a localized thunderstorm, which generally requires a bit more heat to create them.
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Well, I am just giving this story a benefit of the doubt. As it stands, it looks like a capsize in perfect weather which is very unusual.
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GRRR... You're on thin ice leadmine boy.
I may have a "leadmine" but there are not many reports in the news of them turning turtle on a perfectly nice sailing day....Mr. Twitchy Boat!
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