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Please, let the first person that has had water up to their ass or chest, 200 miles off shore in 8-10' seas, say what "they" would do in this situation.
I'll go first . . . I would give the order to the crew to deploy the inflatable.
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I'd agree...why didn't they deploy the dinghy, if they thought the big boat was in imminent danger of sinking???
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I would agree that it "looks" like she is floating on her lines. We have a tendency to become "armchair" sailors lately. No matter what the story "says" happened, there are at least 10 theories about what really happened. All of this is fine analysis, and does make you think about what may be and what we may do, so at least that is positive.

The story looks as if the Coast Guard said that there was 4' of water in the cabin. They must be lying bastards! Couldn't be! The boat is fine! Should have sailed her to safety, no problem!

Please, let the first person that has had water up to their ass or chest, 200 miles off shore in 8-10' seas, say what "they" would do in this situation.

EXACTLY!!!

It's hard to know (for them) exactly how bad the damage was. If i was single handing then i may be willing to take some risks but being responsible for the crew i think i would have done the same thing... Hailing on the VHF and preparing the liferaft while grabbing the ditch bag including the EPIRB.... and staying with the boat until it was not safe any longer.
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Someone mentioned how shallow the bilges were on Beneteaus. I suppose then, that water would fill the cabins sooner than most keel boats of similar size.



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If you have been 200 miles offshore with water up to your ass you need to tell that story. I don't think you have shared it yet. Alex can even do photo shop for you.

As far as the dingy, I for one don't understand what it is doing there 200 miles off shore unless they were preparing it. However, whether it was stored there or being prepared to abandon, I would rather it not be beating against the boat until I was ready to step UP into it. That little puppy is my last recourse. It is certainly not going to be a pretty ride 200 miles from shore.
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The dinghy was, essentially, deployed as they appear to have been towing it by the stern. So, I assume that there isn't much they could have done - just wait until the help arrives or their boat sinks enough that moving into the dinghy is safer. It's a bennie with an open transom - once it is deep enoigh in the water, they just step into the dinghy - nothing to "deploy".

I suppose trying to locate and fix the problem may have been useful, but considering a fully enclosed "liner" these boats have - there is little they can do for many places on the hull. This is especially true of lower forward part which is fully enclosed.
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Someone mentioned how shallow the bilges were on Beneteaus. I suppose then, that water would fill the cabins sooner than most keel boats of similar size.

This thing is on Yachtworld? I bet it's all fixed up and for sale at an excellent price too
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Damn, that is almost as shallow as the bilge on my boat... not quite...but close... but I don't have the big metal weight...
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There was a thread on SN featuring this "fixer-upper" not too long ago . . . LINK
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If you have been 200 miles offshore with water up to your ass you need to tell that story. I don't think you have shared it yet. Alex can even do photo shop for you.

As far as the dingy . . .That little puppy is my last recourse.
You're absolutely right tommy - never been in that situation, so I'll STFU - even after a Giu PS job. (g)

There is also the sit-on-top kayak. Those things are unsinkable - about as unstable as a multi-hull in high seas, but they won't sink.
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