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You may be right....as the saying goes.....rather a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy......

I'm afraid the "pirate threat, shriek horror gasp" gets up my nose even more than "whats the best boat to circumnavigate in".......

OK, so I'm somewhat intolerant..........
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You may be right....as the saying goes.....rather a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy......

I'm afraid the "pirate threat, shriek horror gasp" gets up my nose even more than "whats the best boat to circumnavigate in".......

OK, so I'm somewhat intolerant..........
Translation: "whats the best boat to circumnavigate in and avoid the pirate threat, shriek horror gasp"

(Hasn't been asked it will soon !)

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Have to agree with TDW on this one. Did some research into pirate attacks in Indonesia and the last recorded case on a yacht I could find was in 1999. Sail Indonesia has been running for about 10 years with 120 yacts participating last year, 90 yachts the year previously, 70 yachts in 2004, etc. I've yet to find a single record of any of these yachts having problems.

For a more balanced view than the Daily telegraph I would check out this website.

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There was a more recent attack on sailing vessels, in which they were repelled by the captain, armed with a shotgun and by running the attacking vessels down, since one of the target boats was a steel hull.
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Even if you are just in S.A. its usually some drinking, drugged idiot in a dingy with a pistol that surprises you in the night. [from what I've read] The book I read was depressing and about the only defense that seemed remotely successful was to anchor in areas where there are other cruisers. And that sounds pretty bleak. But if you base your life on the flame fanning media then you won't even feel safe at home. So IMOH. "Be cautious as serpants, innocent as doves"...who said that?
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Of course, those of you in larger boats, say 40',+ are far more likely to be targeted than smaller boats, say <35', because the casual pirates want the highest return for them efforts and are basically lazy... and a larger boat is a more expensive boat in general, and therefore has more wealthy owners... and therefore makes a better target.
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Have to agree with TDW on this one. Did some research into pirate attacks in Indonesia and the last recorded case on a yacht I could find was in 1999. Sail Indonesia has been running for about 10 years with 120 yacts participating last year, 90 yachts the year previously, 70 yachts in 2004, etc. I've yet to find a single record of any of these yachts having problems.

For a more balanced view than the Daily telegraph I would check out this website.

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Accurate report or not ...its is fun to think about being a little proactive ..

My vidual anti streak ...I guess...Let me have some fun to will ya...

FWIW...Most of the anchorage type cases get classified as thefts/assaults not Piracy so the numbers are skewed in that regard also...some dont get reported at all..dead/missing....scuttled.

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Just to bring this thread back on topic, what is the best anchor and how much chain should I put on it?
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A really good anchor is a Hunter 30, filled with lead.... and you can use the mast as a mooring. It would require about 100' of 1/2" chain for a barge as big as yours.
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