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We just put up this sail. It sails well and is balanced OK but wow is it hard to see where you are going.

Leaning over the rail doesn't help. The sail is so low and goes so far back you just can't see.
If the boat is bobbing up and down enough I can get a glimpse once in while. But in smooth water that trick doesn't work.

I've been just falling off enough to get a view then going back on course but that seems like an odd way to solve the problem.

What is the best solution?
Re-cut the sail?

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If it is a roller furling sail, you might try rolling it a few turns... not a perfect solution, but should work fairly well. Re-cutting the sail is going to not be an ideal solution, since most sails need to be designed for their final shape and the panels are probably cut wrong for the shape you'd need.
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you might be able to bring it to a sail loft and have a clear panel put in.
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If you had included an photo of the head we could have determined if there was a possibility of hauling the sail up higher and adding a pennant at the tack.
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What is the best solution?
Somebody on the low side, somebody on the high . Or have a sail-maker put a window in.

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Re-cut the sail?
I wouldn't. It's hard to say, but it looks like it's cut to be a 150 when it's rolled all the way out. You'll want that in light air (more drive). Roll it up some, if you want.

We have this problem with our #1. It's normal. Lookouts on both the high and low sides, plus I've been known to occasionally point up and fall off to swing the bow.

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Best solution is to have a loft put in a vinyl window. While you are on the stern, use a laser pointer (or good signals) to tell a foredeck person where the window should be, and mark it off with tape. Make sure that's what you want, think it over before you have it cut!

Cutting the foot of the sail higher could take away significant power. Installing a camera on the bow deck would be unyachtsmansly.

Moving around, high side to low side, might be worth trying. A lot of racers won't install a window and wind up having the genoa crew duck down to peer under from time to time. But all in all? A PROPERLY placed window works for me. And, as Jim notes, swinging the bow a bit for the occassional paranoia check works too.
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Windows aren't a great solution, since they tend to distort and have other issues...especially on a larger sailboat.
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If you had included an photo of the head we could have determined if there was a possibility of hauling the sail up higher and adding a pennant at the tack.

Great idea but it goes all the way up to the top.
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