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View Poll Results: do u pay for your mooring?
yes 21 75.00%
free 7 25.00%
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Old 08-17-2008
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Cool do u pay for your mooring?

do u pay for your mooring? we have a channel and for the moment there's nothing to pay; and the channel is even in a beautiful natural park; u need only self made slip, a mooring weight and some ropes

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Lucky!!

Anywhere in this part of the globe, a mooring is typically many hundreds of $$$ with on-going rental and maintenance not much less than that.
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I'd imagine that the rules in certain parts of eastern europe are a bit lax.
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I'm on a "free" dock. However, as payback I cut the grass on the property for 5.5 hours on sunday with a friend. All comes out in the wash. I also help repair the boards on the dock, etc.
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Poll needs more options -- what's "free"?

Do I pay someone for the priviledge of using a mooring I do not "own"? No. Is it "free"? Well, I guess it is if you don't count:

1/ The $2K worth of gear I bought to put on the bottom
2/ The annual "fee" I pay to the town that claims to own the bottom on which my $2K worth of gear sets
3/ The annual exise tax levied on my boat because it is attached to a mooring located within the legal jurisdiction of the town during the summer months (no kidding -- the boat's on the mooring maybe 60 days a year. The rest of the time it's out of the state completely, but the town levies a tax on the boat because the 60 days occur during the summer months).
4/ Relatively minor costs associated with the annual upkeep of the gear

Sadly, very few things in life are "free", but fortunately for sailors the wind still blows free.

Post script: I hate to think what might happen if anyone in government decided to tax the wind. If we ever arrive at the point where there are millions of dollars sunk in wind power generation, I'm sure politicians will decide that they should tax the "wind fall" profits earned by they people who invested in the windmill. Afterall, the wind is owned by the public and the guy with the windmill is using it for "free". Once they tax the windmill, can the sailboat be far behind?
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Karletto,
You are one of the very few lucky boat owners to moor for free in Adriatic.
The marinas are expensive and full (marina Portoroz would charge 10k$ per annum for a 43 feet boat), if you want a place at the public dock (payable of course, but less then a marina fee) the waiting time was 10 years or more when I checked the last time.
It also required to change permanent address to that place...
I know of a few creeks where some people like you keep their boats for free, but it is just enough place for few small boats with little draft. . .
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i don't have a boat for the moment; first we had a 6m single hull, usually called "duck", than a HIRONDELL 23 cat and chartered +8m ELAN boats in Croatia
the cat came from England (by sea!); it's is an english design (we sold it to the boss of slovenian secret service at the moment ) 1st 2 boats were moored in the channel i mentioned (@tomaž: sv. Jernej/ Seča)
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Paloma is in a 40 foot slip with water and electricity (rest rooms, showers, swimming pool, ships store on the property), we pay $250 per month year round and pay for electricity actually used (that runs less than $10 per month).
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Post script: I hate to think what might happen if anyone in government decided to tax the wind. If we ever arrive at the point where there are millions of dollars sunk in wind power generation, I'm sure politicians will decide that they should tax the "wind fall" profits earned by they people who invested in the windmill. Afterall, the wind is owned by the public and the guy with the windmill is using it for "free". Once they tax the windmill, can the sailboat be far behind?
Companies like Air Liquide and BOC have been making money from fresh air for decades: Air goes in, gets filtered, compressed, bottled and sold for big $$$.

Liquid air (and wind/solar power) are one of the few industries I know where you can set up pretty much anywhere on the planet with cheap rent and make money from nothing... but if the pollies aren't charging the liquid air companies for "air usage" now, I guess they never will - so don't worry, it'll never happen.

Apologies for hijacking the thread, officer.. I won't do it again - promise!

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Nothing. It's in my back yard.
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