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Saildoggie 08-31-2008 04:17 PM

Fire extinguisher as non-lethal protection?
 
Curious how effective the standard ABC type fire exyinguisher would be in defend your vessel against unwanted people boarding.

We had a situation while chartering the BVI's that have explained in a trip report here, a couple of dinghies full of drunk idiots waking us up in the middle of the night and threating to board us.

I had a high powered flashlight and a flare gun in hand but knew firing a flare into their dinghy would be quite an incident.
I managed to fend them off without firing the flare gun, I had 4 teenage girls, 2 wives and a very good friend aboard, these guys meant harm and showed it the following night assaulting me, 8 on one.

Dousing them with the fire extinguisher would mae a huge mess, so outside of our charter yacht and into their dinghy was a thought, they were along side at the sugar scoops ready to board.

I believe this would send them on their way in a hurry, would any serious injury be sustained from such a retaliation??

A link to my trip rport is here:
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/charte...-cold-one.html

retclt 08-31-2008 04:28 PM

I would think a fire extinguisher would Pi$$ them off. The large Pepper Sprays might be better than the extinguisher. You’re right on the flare gun. If you sank them you’d be obligated to rescue them.

Two wives? Does that come with two Mother’s in law? Ouch!!!

Whampoa 08-31-2008 04:56 PM

Never a pleasant experience, especially with family aboard.

This info might answer your questions on the Fire Ext. -

http://www.pyrochem.com/pdfs/msds/PC2003220.pdf

I find that a 3 or 4 cell mag light is handy in illuminating choices for unwanted guests. Not useful in a gun fight but neither is a fire extinguisher :D .


Regards, John

ckgreenman 08-31-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Whampoa (Post 361108)
I find that a 3 or 4 cell mag light is handy in illuminating choices for unwanted guests. Not useful in a gun fight but neither is a fire extinguisher :D .


A 3 or 4 cell Maglite isn't much but a 6 D-cell loaded with alkaline batteries is practically a baseball bat with a really bright bulb ;)

Whampoa 08-31-2008 05:19 PM

:D Of course SIZE does matter. :D

Saildoggie 08-31-2008 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by retclt (Post 361105)
Two wives? Does that come with two Motherís in law? Ouch!!!

Should have worded that differently, my Wife Lynn (The Admiral, Happy Hooker) and my buddy Bipto's Wife Nina (Den Mother and Chef Extrodinaire)

Pepper Spray is illegal in the BVI's.

ckgreenman 08-31-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Saildoggie (Post 361122)
Pepper Spray is illegal in the BVI's.

I suppose a tasers are illegal too (not to mention a bad idea around salt water). Have you talked with the local authorities as to what they would recommend?

retclt 08-31-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saildoggie (Post 361122)
Pepper Spray is illegal in the BVI's.


Did not know that. It's getting harder and harder to defend yourself outside of the US.

OK . . . . . . . how about a can of lysol and a lighter. A little flame throwing might scare the hell out of them. Slingshot? Machete? A big Solar Stick?:eek:

Stillraining 08-31-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ckgreenman (Post 361164)
I suppose a tasers are illegal too (not to mention a bad idea around salt water). Have you talked with the local authorities as to what they would recommend?

That would be this typical British response ,well for that matter limp wristed USA following down the same thorny path "Just let them have their way and let us do our job" kind of responce..:rolleyes:

Worse on the citizen defending oneself then the criminals British law is Im afraid..and the lefties want the same thing here.

ckgreenman 08-31-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillraining (Post 361178)
Worse on the citizen defending oneself then the criminals British law is Im afraid..and the lefties want the same thing here.

Trust me, I know. I lived in England for 3 years. :D

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