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Old 09-20-2008
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When to call coast guard

Scenario #1
I'm out sailing alone and always call by cell if I'm going to be late.
I'm x hours late. My shore party calls the CG.
What is the value of x

Scenario #2
I'm out sailing alone and always call home if I'm going to be late. My cell doesn't work. Is it appropriate to call the Coast Guard via vhf and let them know that they can ignore any calls regarding missing my float plan schedule.

The CG is not my answering service but still.
I guess I could wait for them to contact me.

Anyone know the protocol?
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Scenario 3: Sailing solo, and presumably out of cell phone range, you have filed a sail plan with the CG. Being a prudent sailor, you monitor Ch. 16 and when they call you (being x hours late), you inform them that your cell is dead, the wind is light, but that you are not in distress. Then they can inform your family to prepare the rum, because you'll arrive at midnight.
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Sailors and the Coast Guard often have a different opinion of when and how to notify them. Case in point: In the March '08 Force 10 storm we were caught in, when the storm hit us we were already out of cell phone and VHF range of any human contact. We were headed for Freeport and had to turn and run before the storm to about 150 miles down the Mexican coast, by the time we were back in cell/VHF range we were way overdue at Freeport (the storm hit us about 6:30pm Thursday and we made our way back up to the Southern tip of Padre Island - just north of the Mexican boarder about noon on Sunday) . When I turned on my cell, I had multiple voicemails from Air CG Corpus Christi, TX and CG New Orleans (of course my wife and two sons as well). When I called Coast Guard Corpus Christi, they had been looking for us since Friday AM and when they learned we were well out of range, they asked if we had an EPIRB. I told them that we did and the Lt. asked why we hadn't activated it? I explained that we considered the EPIRB an SOS and although we were cold, wet, tired and thought we might make Vera Cruz before the storm abated, but were never disabled or at risk of floundering. She said we should have activated it anyway. I didn't tell her we had a Single Sideband, but it was out of service (that would have been another lecture). So, who's right? I still have no idea.
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Most CG stations are severly overloaded. They are not there to take your routine float plans, and they really don't want to hear that stuff unless you are saying "This is the yacht Doubtful, our engine has failed, we are barely making headway, we are not currently in distress but would appreciate your keeping a radio watch with us, with ourly contacts, until the storm has diminished or until dawn."

As to float plans...that's something you have to decide based on the your abilities. A friend of mine was going on a week long delivery cruise, figured 7 days was optimum, 9 was allowing enough slack, and ten days meant something was preventing them from getting dlelivered. Our agreement was that I would call the USCG and report them overdue on the morning of the tenth day. Night #9 came and his wife called to ask if I'd heard anything, and that's when I called the USCG to say "He's not overdue, but they're pushing it, if I have to call you in the morning what do you need to know?"
The forms are quite a bit more extensive than you might think, if you plan to file float plans, you might ask for a set to pre-fill and leave on file.
Meanwhile, my local USCG station connected me to Group Atlantic, who connected me to the Caribbean station at their departure harbor, who said they understood but would ask to see if anyone know for sure they had LEFT on schedule. All on one local phone call!
On the morning of the tenth day I got a phone call from my friend. Hurricane detours, engine failure, tied up 700 miles south of their intended destination because that was as good as they could get.
But it is YOUR CHOICE, as the skipper, to decide when you will be overdue. In icy waters, you might want to make that a lot faster than in warm ones.

Just realize the USCG puts a lot of attention into every call--and they can't spare it for babysitting. Make sure you don't start a SAR response without good reason. And consider investing in a cell phone booster and antenna for the boat, as a way to place "nearshore" calls further offshore. Or, a SPOT device that can send an "I'm OK" message via the internet and email through satellite. Quite reasonably priced!

Also consider the VHf marine telephone operator channels:
VHF Marine Radio Channels: Use the Right Radio Channel for the Job!
It isn't cheap, it may cost you $5 for a one minute call, but as a way to say "Honey, don't worry, we're just going to be way late" that can make sense too.
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Scenario 3: Sailing solo, and presumably out of cell phone range, you have filed a sail plan with the CG. Being a prudent sailor, you monitor Ch. 16 and when they call you (being x hours late), you inform them that your cell is dead, the wind is light, but that you are not in distress. Then they can inform your family to prepare the rum, because you'll arrive at midnight.
Very good advice.
I for one am very bad about keeping a schedule when it's not work related. Worse habit is that I'm not the type to check in with any regularity.
file a float plan, and keep an ear open to the radio is a great way to avoid issues, and sooth nerves.

Have managed to 'mature' a bit since I've gotten married, used to be gone a day or two without checking in, now I normally remember to call in when it gets dark.

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First person to successfully file a float plan with the USCG gets the prize*

Anyways:
1: 12-36. I have been known to come home a day late. My wife knows better than to come looking for me

2: No. Listen to your VHF. If USCG was concerned they will try to hail you.

*prize yet to be determined...

If your family is the worry types maybe you should get a Spot satellite messenger.... that could save a lot of grief and they will always know where you are!

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The official US Coast Guard Auxiliary Float Plan form specifically states that you do NOT file it with the USCG, but instead "leave it with a reliable person who can be depended upon to notify the Coast Guard."

In Canada, however, you may file a sail plan with the Canadian Coast Guard, either in writing, by phone, or on VHF.

The USCG Auxiliary does not give a minimum time-overdue for a shore party to report a vessel to the Coast Guard. They give a more subjective definition: "Is there a genuine concern for the safety or welfare of the "Persons On Board" who have not returned or checked-in?"
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