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I have to say that is one awesome picture, is that seaweed scattered on your deck?

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He didn't just touch bottom, he got lifted and pounded on it for hours on end. HG just happens to be a very tough old girl.
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I did read the thread and was in no way making light of what happened to HG and her crew. My meaning was that in luckier circumstances one could touch bottom, spin the wheel and sail right off again. Sadly for HG that wasn't the case and they had the crap beaten out of them. My point was that we have probably all touched bottom at some time or other but not all of us have had the bad luck to get a pounding from it.
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I have to say that is one awesome picture, is that seaweed scattered on your deck?
Dude - when are you splashing the Hobie? Can't wait to see some hull flying!
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I did read the thread and was in no way making light of what happened to HG and her crew. My meaning was that in luckier circumstances one could touch bottom, spin the wheel and sail right off again. Sadly for HG that wasn't the case and they had the crap beaten out of them. My point was that we have probably all touched bottom at some time or other but not all of us have had the bad luck to get a pounding from it.
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I didn't think you were. Just thought ya missed how bad it was is all. The first and last time I grounded Oh Joy in the mud IN THE MIDDLE OF A MARKED CHANNEL!, I pushed and backed while spinning from left to right until I dug a trench deep enough to back off. There's times when a 50 HP, a full keel and skeg hung rudder come in handy.
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once water temp is 60-70 I'll be happy right now we are at 40 probably a month or so, be patient you will have all the hull flying you need.

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mrwuffles, ya should've seen the time I had to go up the mast to get the kelp out of my spreaders on Oh Joy. I should've taken a pic I guess.
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About 6 mos after I bought a Catalina 30 we came back from a daysail thru Angel's Gate = main entrance to LA Harbor. Storm warnings were up and winds started to stay over 20 knots with gusts to 29. As we took the jib down using the furler line, the jib sheets got twisted around the furler. Sent my crew to unscramble it, but the wind kept pushing the stern around and tightening the knotted jib line. The Atomic had just enough power to keep us moving and darkness fell suddenly. 30 minute later we still were going in a circle, couldn't reef the main (no reef ties) and now the swells and wind made it very tricky to be on deck in the vicinity of the jib lines, which were whipping around like spagetti in unpredictable patterns. We finally called vessel assist, but got LA Harbor Patrol instead. They boarded and couldn't get jib free either and suggested I cut my new sail. Finally, an eternity later, one of the deputies who was persistent and had sailing experience got it free. We were at the main entrance to the harbor and a definite navigation hazard, not to mention a hazrd to ourselves with a vessel that was headed for the rocks several times.
My solution was to re-rig the jib, but I still don't know how the sheets got so tangled. Obviously we should have brought her more into the wind before trying to work the furler, but tjat doesn't seem a fully satisfactory answer to me. Any suggestions, as leaving the jib in place would have brought us into the slip at an uncontrollable speed, and taking down the main would have meant a loss of sterrability.
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When you first heard the storm warnings...you probably should have started to reduce sail. If you haven't rigged your reefing lines for the reef points in your main in SIX FREAKING MONTHS, don't you think you might want to do that soon. You also need to learn how to use your furler in heavy wind conditions. Letting the clew of the jib flog without any tension on the jibsheets will generally tangle the sheets pretty well, especially if you're motoring in circles.

It also sounds like you don't have jacklines, tethers or harnesses setup on the boat... which you should also probably remedy sooner rather than later.

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Hey pg, what Dog is trying to say is that he's infallible. Kind of the Pope of Sailing who likes to trash people for screwing up like they should always know better - like him. (Dog - didn't you get a time out once on the treatment of newbs?). Blow him off - pg.

Anyway, thanks for the post. It does sound like you definitely had some big freakin' sail up and got caught! Everyone's been there. Hang around here and there will be some other seasoned salts come along to give you some non-eyerolling advice on your sail configuration.

Welcome to Sailnet, dude. And don't forget to kiss Dog's ring.

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As smack says, there is ALWAYS one person that has to say they know everything, yadda yadda yadda! SD is that one here on SN.

I wish I could help, but I do not have a lot of experience with furlers. Other than my first thought if possible, would have been to drop the jib itself, if "THAT" was possible. Then rehoist the jib at the dock. That of course is assuming you could unfurl the part that was furled.

Again, hopefully someone with some experience will show up to give you some GOOD pointers on how to deal with the issue.

In the mean time, winds for saturday are 20-30, even to 35 out of the south-SW, and my replacement boom will not be here until mid week,..........next week.....waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Luv to try out the storm jib this weekend.

May have oneother option yet, will see.........

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