Originally Posted by Maxboatspeed
sounds exciting. I don't know about Texas Tornados. PFDs - good. I'd think your kids know enough to keep safe. My thought is that they can decide where to be? Avoiding panic is important. It's clear you get that.
Thanks for sharing your stories.
The reason for my reply is this:
There is a common misconception that "sailboats have the right of way."
Yes, all boaters should read the "Rules of the Road" (Navigation rules).
No where in these rules is the phrase "right of way."
"Stand-on vessel" and "Give-way vessel" (rules 16,17) are terms used.
It's important to know the meaning.
Rule 2b comes to mind
Rule 9b probably did not apply, but might be what the dumbarse was talking about.
Rule 18a does not mean that sailboats have a "right of way."
I don't really know exactly what the deal was with this "party barge" and it's likely he is a bone head (after all, it's Texas). I do know that niether one of you had the "right of way."
it ain't that simple.
Yep - reading the "rules of the road" is a good idea.
Now maxi, don't go getting all semantic on me. First, Bonehead obviously didn't understand the NavRules anyway - so it really wouldn't have mattered whether I said "right of way" or "stand-on" - it simply sounded like "biosimplistic protoplasmation" to him. And big words just make him mad...and vaguely hungry.
Second, the terms mean the same thing. Where the actual NR terms to which you refer describe the responsibility
the vessels have, "right of way" describes the condition under which those responsibilities and resultant actions occur and is perfectly valid as well. For example, my condition
as a sailboat under sail gives me the right of way (in relation to power driven vessels), which designates me as the "stand-on" vessel and him as the "give-way" vessel (the responsibilities). But the language is not that cut and dried. To wit, your 18a:
Except where Rules 9, 10, and 13 otherwise require:
(a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:
(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
(iii) a vessel engaged in fishing; and
(iv) a sailing vessel.
See how "Give Way" (responsibility) is replaced by "Keep out of the way of" (action)? The way I read it, a sailboat does indeed have the inherent "right of way" (the condition) since the power-driven vessel (with give-way responsibility) is told to "stay out of its way" (the action) with few exceptions. Semantics, dude.
I mean, which would have been easier to yell at a passing party barger throwing you the stink finger?
"Read the Rules of the Road you freakin' bonehead, sailboats have the right way when under sail!"
"Pardon me sir, but may I direct your attention to Navigation Rules 16, 17, and 18, which clearly designate my bad-ass C27 as the 'stand-on' vessel, and your goofy-ass PB45 as the 'give-way' vessel...thereby, making it incumbent on you to avoid running me down. Furthermore, I would like to extend my sympathy for the palsy that has obviously crippled four digits of your right hand. Good day sir."
I chose the first option - and was actually right on the mark.
Furthermore, let me respectfully point out the error of your above statement...
No where in these rules is the phrase "right of way."
...by pointing you to rules 9a and 14d and Annex Vß88.12. "Right of way" all over the place!
So even my splendid Navigation Rules semantics were spot on! And if you want to get super picky, how about this doozey?
Yes, all boaters should read the "Rules of the Road"
Do you sail on a road? I don't - but maybe that's just Texas.
But I digress...let's continue the rules evaluation and how Bonehead f'ed up in every conceivable way...
Let's start with 2b that you mention above:
In construing and complying with these Rules due regard shall be
had to all dangers of navigation and collision and to any special
circumstances, including the limitations of the vessels involved, which
may make a departure from these Rules necessary to avoid
The only limitation on that vessel was its Neanderthal skipper and his complete inability to focus on anything that isn't shiny or warm.
Okay, how about 9a?
(a) (i) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or
fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or
fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.
(ii) Notwithstanding paragraph (a)(i) and Rule 14(a), a powerdriven
vessel operating in narrow channels or fairways on the Great
Lakes, Western Rivers, or waters specified by the Secretary, and
proceeding downbound with a following current shall have the rightof-
way over an upbound vessel, shall propose the manner and
place of passage, and shall initiate the maneuvering signals
prescribed by rule 34(a)(i), as appropriate. The vessel proceeding
upbound against the current shall hold as necessary to permit safe
Okay, a little more interesting. Since Lake Travis is actually part of the Colorado River, Bonehead could possibly try to shoot down 18a by trying to throw this in my face. However, as I mentioned, I was actually the one in the narrow channel as I was entering our marina and only 50' or so from the no-wake buoys. His course was hugging the cliffs (I assume to avoid the waves I kicked up by said tornado). He had miles of lake to port, cliffs to starboard, and my own bad self dead ahead. Furthermore, I was the downbound vessel with the current behind me...clearly giving me the "right of way".
So, as you point out, maybe he was banking on good, old 9b as indicated by his profane shouting:
(b) A vessel of less than 20 meters in length or a sailing vessel shall
not impede the passage of a vessel that can safely navigate only
within a narrow channel or fairway.
Of course, as already shown, this is a huge freakin' eye roll. I was entering the narrow passage - not him. He had the whole freakin' lake to his left. And, anyway, it's a party barge
, not an ore carrier. Once again...
Finally, as to the "bonehead" moniker...it's simply a means of pointing out the trait of physiognomy evident in really stupid people, both in Texas and Manhattan, as shown in this photo of a derivatives trader who used to work for Bear Sterns and bears a striking resemblance to the Party Barger...
(Note the copious amount of bone.)