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Here's a nice, juicy BFS. 30+ with gusts to 45...starting at about 2:04...



Now that's one nicely buried rail. But I wouldn't call it a "knockdown".

Here's a question for you experienced guys - shouldn't the third crew be keeping tension on both sheets during the flog/furl so they don't wind up knotted balls? Also - stopper knots anyone? That could have been bad.
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skipper should bear done and then furl, while they are keeping tension on the sheet.. If you have a backstay put the backstay on max will allow the forestay to tighten and furl nicely.
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skipper should bear done and then furl, while they are keeping tension on the sheet.. If you have a backstay put the backstay on max will allow the forestay to tighten and furl nicely.
That was a bit of nasty flog on that jib. The skip was pretty laid back though.

I assume this is the point (45 knots) you go to storm sails and start running (in open water of course)?
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Those guys in the PNW sure like thier tall rigs... The thing that I can't figure out is why they were completely powered up. Were they trying to get thier boat to lay down for the camera? They certanly not looking for speed as stalling is really slow.
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Those guys in the PNW sure like thier tall rigs... The thing that I can't figure out is why they were completely powered up. Were they trying to get thier boat to lay down for the camera? They certanly not looking for speed as stalling is really slow.
Tall rigs up here? Yeah. That's because with all the islands we sail in and around the wind WILL be from EVERY direction in one day. Once I was DDW playing with a used symmetrical spinnaker on my old boat. The wind died, then before I knew it it was from directly ahead. Turns out the wind was funneling around an island and I went from: wind behind, to lee of island, to wind around the other side (ie on my nose). Spent the evening hanging from the rigging disentangling my new "roller furling" spinnaker from my headstay.

The more weatherly the boat the more likely (around here) they won't need the motor. No big, unobstructed bay where the wind predictably comes from one direction daily like clock work. Of course, what do I know, I sail a full keeled ketch up here.

I agree they're a bit powered up. I would have had the traveler all the way to leward long ago. If they really needed to go to windward I would think a second reef in the main would be the way to go. Can't recall if they had a second reef in the main. I also agree with Smack, that a little tension on the jib sheet while furling would have saved some flogging. That would be harder than it seems though as the furling line would already be hard to bring in, and holding tension on the sheet might allow the sail to fill creating much more tension on the furling line and possibly breaking something as you winch it in. Mainly they just needed to execute the whole thing faster to save the sail from being flogged.

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It appears to me they could have eased the kicker, spilled some wind off the main and then been more upright and would have had an easier time with the furling line.
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all the above videos and photos of guys taking their wifes/girl friends out sailing for the first ................ and last time!
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