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post #2571 of 3038 Old 03-01-2013
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Very sad Smack! O'l mother nature strikes again! She should be recoverable even if it is just for salvage and the rum. I just got my tanks pressure checked. When do we start?

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Heh-heh. Thanks Down. It actually would be a fun dive. Just dark and cold, I think. I did a lot of diving when I lived in the Solomon Islands. As you can imagine - the wrecks were incredible in Iron Bottom Sound. The deepest I ever went was 45 meters, and got a bit narced on the way down. But the visibility was awesome and the water was nice and warm. 30 meters in this lake would be a whole other thing.

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I did my advanced open water class on travis and went to 110 feet for our deep dive. It was pretty surreal down there. Your rum will definitely be chilled.

The instructor had us try to do simple math problem while we were down there on a slate. Simple problems like 27 + 62. I am a math boy, but in the 60 seconds he gave us I could not do a single one. He point was "you are stupid at that depth". Good lesson I will never forget.

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I did my advanced open water class on travis and went to 110 feet for our deep dive. It was pretty surreal down there. Your rum will definitely be chilled.

The instructor had us try to do simple math problem while we were down there on a slate. Simple problems like 27 + 62. I am a math boy, but in the 60 seconds he gave us I could not do a single one. He point was "you are stupid at that depth". Good lesson I will never forget.

He was a great instructor.
Dude, I'm stupid up here! What's the visibility that deep?


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It is actually pretty clear down there. I think because there is no oxygen. It is pitch black, but with the flashlight you can see at least 20 feet IIRC.

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I have been that deep with lights and it is not a picnic. If you have a confirmed location and just need to attach a cable it wouldn't be a big deal. If you have to spend time at depth looking for the boat that is a different dive. A good sonar should be able to "see" your boat. Good luck.

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Smack, Iím really sorry to hear of the loss of your beloved Smacktanic. If there is any consolation, without breast cleats on the dock or mid-ship cleats on your boat, there was nothing that really could be done for your boat (or everybody elseís for that matter) in those tight slips and exposure. I hope your liability insurance will cover the claims from the Marina and the governing entity of Canyon Lake. If it is any consolation, you are welcome on-board Freya anytime if your travels ever take you to the San Francisco Bay area. (The Americaís Cup 72ís are a sight to behold even on practice days.) And, lilí Freya will be down in Mexico/SOC in 2016 (just saying).

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Aint worth diving unless there is something really worth going after. My deepest dive is 150' at Forty Fathom Grotto in Florida. Did it as a divemaster candidate with the instructor. Found a nice wrist mounted compass on the mound at the bottom. Definitely narced and loopy. Long time to come back up, lots of just hanging out breathing.

Guess I'm saying that it all depends on the rum. How 'bout it Smack, is that bottle a really good one?

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Smack, Iím really sorry to hear of the loss of your beloved Smacktanic. If there is any consolation, without breast cleats on the dock or mid-ship cleats on your boat, there was nothing that really could be done for your boat (or everybody elseís for that matter) in those tight slips and exposure. I hope your liability insurance will cover the claims from the Marina and the governing entity of Canyon Lake. If it is any consolation, you are welcome on-board Freya anytime if your travels ever take you to the San Francisco Bay area. (The Americaís Cup 72ís are a sight to behold even on practice days.) And, lilí Freya will be down in Mexico/SOC in 2016 (just saying).
Thanks George. That means a lot coming from you. After seeing the destruction down there I was pretty comfortable that there was very little that could have been done differently prior to the windstorm (which was WAY more violent than had been predicted). But - there's always that nagging feeling.

My guess for why we went to the bottom when some of the other Catalinas didn't is the outboard well. With the angle of the wind, those waves would have been slamming almost directly into her stern. And since she was pinned in the slip the force and volume of the water would have been huge. So my guess is that the water pushed up through the opening in the transom, up through the lazarette, and into the cockpit filling it and leaking down into the cabin. Then, with the water pouring in at the bow from the shorn-off stem it just got worse and worse as the boat hobby-horsed - heavy both forward and aft. Again - just a guess.

Anyway I really appreciate yours and everyone else's invites to sail. It's pretty damn cool knowing people have your back.


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Aint worth diving unless there is something really worth going after. My deepest dive is 150' at Forty Fathom Grotto in Florida. Did it as a divemaster candidate with the instructor. Found a nice wrist mounted compass on the mound at the bottom. Definitely narced and loopy. Long time to come back up, lots of just hanging out breathing.

Guess I'm saying that it all depends on the rum. How 'bout it Smack, is that bottle a really good one?
No way! I think it was Sailor Jerry's or something.

I will admit that I did dampen the shock that evening with a double scotch:

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